Sorry I couldn't get back to you until now, as I didn't see this.
Both you and Gerard's response share the same deficiency: Lack of detail. This is basically marketese "sounds good" speak, but without any detail. Sure, that stuff sounds good, but that's not anything to vote on. How do you plan to actually do that stuff? What particular steps will you take to reach those goals?
Plans are detailed, not feel-good "We think this stuff sounds nice". Exactly what is it you are proposing to do? That is what the proposal is missing. Otherwise, you're basically asking us to write you a blank check. What EXACTLY are you proposing to do, step by step and detail by detail?
Regards,
Todd Allen
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 2:34 PM Kaarel Vaidla kvaidla@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear Todd,
Thank you for the feedback!
While working on the consolidation of the recommendations coming from the working groups, the writers put a lot of effort into ensuring conciseness of expression for the final recommendations. In some cases it meant that the text became so condensed that It can indeed be somewhat difficult to follow. Regarding the passage related to the Movement Charter, as a non-native English speaker, I do not feel that this is really the case.
We do not have a different presentation of the recommendation, but have been using the same text. Perhaps you can point to what exactly is unclear for you in the respective passage, so it could be clarified:
- Create a Movement Charter to:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Glossary#Principle and policy basis for Movement structures, including the roles and responsibilities of the Global Council, regional and thematic hubs https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Glossary#Hubs, as well as other existing and new entities and decision-making bodies,
- Lay the values, principles
are Movement-wide to be legitimate and trusted by all stakeholders, e.g. for - Maintaining safe collaborative environments, - Ensuring Movement-wide revenue generation and distribution, - Giving a common direction on how resources should be allocated with appropriate accountability mechanisms. - Defining how communities work together and are accountable to each other. - Setting expectations for participation and the rights of participants.
- Set requirements and criteria for decisions and processes that
Wishing you a great continuation to your week! Kaarel
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 8:50 AM Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Dear Todd, thank you for the invite to read up on this document full of "buzzwords and fury, signifying nothing". I did just that and not find what you suggested, what I found is a determined effort to bring more equity and diversity (you can look up the words in Wiktionary or any other dictionary of your choice). That is a boon for all of us and a necessary departure from the predominantly text based, English dominated culture we have.
At this stage children of nine will not use Commons to find pictures for their schooling because whatever structure is English and search does not translate for "hond", "kat"of "eenhoorn". It is an example of how a more diverse and equitable movement leads to different priorities and effectively leads to more inclusion. Something we need to firmly support. Thanks, GerardM
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 at 23:48, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
So, you linked to this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
What does any of that mean? Right now, it is a document full of buzzwords and fury, signifying nothing. Is there a buzzword-to-English translation of it available?
Regards,
Todd Allen
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 4:02 AM Kaarel Vaidla kvaidla@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello everyone,
Voting for the election for the members for the Movement Charter drafting committee is now open. In total, 70 Wikimedians from around the world are running for seven seats in these elections.
As recommended by the Movement Strategy recommendations, the goal is to assemble a Drafting Committee that will draft a Movement Charter to ensure a common framework for decision making in the Wikimedia movement https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations/Ensure_Equity_in_Decision-making#Establish_a_common_framework_for_decision-making. The committee will consist of 15 members in total: The online communities vote for 7 members, 6 members will be selected by the Wikimedia affiliates through a parallel process, and 2 members will be appointed by the Wikimedia Foundation. The plan is to assemble the committee by November 1, 2021.
Voting is open from October 12 10:00 UTC to October 24, 2021 23:59 (Anywhere on Earth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anywhere_on_Earth).
Learn more about the candidates
Candidates from across the movement have submitted their candidatures. Learn about each candidate to inform your vote https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates. The statements are translated to a number of languages, so you can have access to the information in many of your preferred languages.
Additionally, we are piloting a so-called “Election Compass https://mcdc-election-compass.toolforge.org/” for this election. Click yourself through the tool and respond to the 19 statements, and you will see which candidate is closest to you! The tool is available in ~9 languages (English, German, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Arabic, Indonesian, Hausa).
Voting
Similar to the previous Board elections, we have chosen Single Transferable Vote https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/Single_Transferable_Vote for the voting system. The benefit of this is voters can rank their choices in order of preference. Learn more about voting requirements https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Voting#Voting_eligibility, how to vote https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Voting, and frequently asked questions about voting https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Voting#Voting_FAQ .
To cast your vote, please go to SecurePoll https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Elections .
We also offer two question and answer times, if you have any questions regarding the Movement Charter and the voting process:w
Wednesday, 19:00 UTC, on Google Meet
Thursday, 13:00 UTC, on Zoom (that’s the Conversation Time with Maggie Dennis)
Please write a short message to answers@wikimedia.org if you want to participate in one of these.
Please help select people who best fit the needs of the movement at this time. Vote and spread the word so more people can vote for candidates. Our aim is to have a committee with Wikimedians that combine the diversity of the Wikimedia Movement as well as a great mix of competencies.
Best,
Kaarel Vaidla, on behalf of the Movement Strategy & Governance team, Wikimedia Foundation --
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