Hoi, I would not say that the Encyclopaedia Britannica is NOT an encyclopaedia.
The objective of Wikipedia is EXACTLY that it is read. Not that it is edited.
You can argue all you like against bot generated articles but in the final analysis it is doing a much better job than not providing information. Arguably it is not needed to save them as articles because it is possible to generate them on the fly based on information from Wikidata and cache the results but that is EXACTLY the kind of technology that would bring missing information to any Wikipedia without distorting the number of articles for people who only care about editors and editing. It is EXACTLY the kind of technology I would welcome the WMF to explore. Thanks, GerardM
On 6 July 2015 at 11:09, Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
https://war.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinaurog:ActiveUsers https://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espesyal:ActiveUsers
An encyclopedia in the first 10 places without a community is it an encyclopedia?
Is the community important to say that wikipedia is wikipedia? In this case these projects are demonstrating that Wikipedia can renounce to one of its pilaster.
In my opinion the impact of Waray Waray or of Cebuan is a demonstration that any "strange" language can have a big traffic if it is placed in the first places of the ranking because it will be best ranked in search engines.
But an impact is something that produces "effects" and "dissemination". I don't see impact because the bot has increased only one measure (page view) and nothing else.
If the impact must be produced with SEO, the parameters of evaluations must change.
It is different when a bot is running in an encyclopedia supported by a "mature" community, because the articles will be improved in quality and will generate more and more effects.
Regards
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, How do you know that there is no impact ?
https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm shows clearly how much Cebuano has grown considerably in page views. The same
is
true for Waray Waray. Compare it to languages with a similar number of speakers. Please explain how this is not a real impact ! Thanks, GerardM
On 6 July 2015 at 10:20, Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
This is an example about how to produce a "formal" impact without a
"real"
impact.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Salvador A salvador1983@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi!
I just I noticed that Cebuano and Waray-waray Wikipedia are inside
the
list
of the 10 Wikipedias with more articles.[1] It seems it happened
during
this weekend. Maybe in the case of Waray Wikipedia happened a little before. Somebody knows when did it was exactly? Did I miss a thread announcing this?
Waray-waray is now the 6th place and Cebuano has surpassed it.wiki
and
es.wiki and gained the place number 8, mainly due to Lsjbot work.[2] Definitely a milestone in Wikipedia and bots history.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsjbot
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