On 2/28/16 5:45 PM, Chris Sherlock wrote:
Yes, but you need to be more clear. At the risk of playing semantic games, your exact words here are “efforts underway *by Patricio* to *get James to agree* to a joint statement.
You are implying here that the effort was all on Patricio’s side, which has nothing to do with who initiated the conversation. I’m sure you didn’t mean that, but nonetheless you’ve said it now.
Ok. I didn't mean to imply anything. All I knew was that efforts were underway by Patricio to get James to agree to a joint statement. That's 100% true. I didn't know something else that is 100% true - that James initiated the process and was, therefore, presumably trying to get Patricio to agree to a joint statement.
In any event, that effort failed, so that's that.
Given that the Board asked James to leave their meeting, you wouldn’t be able to clarify a point that’s been puzzling me for some time?
- When James was made to leave, then did anyone tell him that there
was going to be a joint or prepared statement from the WMF? 2. If so, did anyone ask James not to email the mailing list? And why did you feel that was so inappropriate? 3. Please help me in understanding - do you feel that Chatham House Rules must apply in the removal of an executive even to the point they are unable to announce their own departure?
Wow, this is really getting into some nitty gritty. 1. I don't know. 2(a) I don't think so, but I don't know. 2(b) There was a general feeling of surprise that he started spinning his version of events before the meeting even ended. It would have been better to at least wait for the meeting to end and discuss how to best communicate it. (3) No, I don't think anything resembling that at all.
Jimmy, will you respond to some of the other points I made? In particular, what you wrote to James was dreadful. Even if you feel that his actions were wrong, surely you can see that your inflammatory words are unbecoming of someone of your stature within the Wikimedia Foundation?
I was astonished that he made claims that were utterly false - remember that this is 100% confirmed now with a statement from every board member who was involved. I'm sorry if the words upset some people, but I really was astonished.