On Sep 10, 2014 9:35 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi. When you look at talk pages in isolation, you look at them on a computer screen. A mobile or tablet screen is increasingly not used in isolation.
I'm not sure what you mean by this.
It
is where we find our new users and editors. We cannot afford to ignore them; they are our future. This is why tinkering with talk pages is not an option. Moving away from talk pages because of mobiles and tablets is the killer reason why we need to move away from talk pages.
It is a killer reason because it makes all arguments to the contrary pale away. Thanks, GerardM
What I find most painful about talk pages on mobile (on the desktop skin, because so far I've been too impatient to find talk pages and edit functionality on mobile) have been that editing huge text areas really sucks (the scrolling and positioning the cursor is a huge pain). This is not limited to talk pages by the way, but is identical for mainspace pages.
A reply button that inserts an isolated comment at the correct indentation level would fix that. Am I overlooking stuff?
On 10 September 2014 09:20, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoekstra@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 10, 2014 5:11 AM, "Keegan Peterzell" keegan.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Wil Sinclair wllm@wllm.com wrote:
FWIW, I signed my first comment by hand. I missed the comments about sigs in the wikitext editor interface. If it weren't for my family situation, I'm pretty sure I would have bailed. In any case, it was much easier to engage at WO, and that was partly- but not mostly-
due
to the fact that they run discussion software over there.
,Wil
This - signing by hand - is pretty much a universal experience for
new
users, myself included.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:History_of_Alaska&diff=p...
-- ~Keegan
I'm not saying that isn't crap and unwelcoming: it is, and it deters new users. But it's hardly the end of the world either. By signing the wrong way no real harm is done, if someone just tells you about the option to
use
It's crap and archaic and should be fixed, but it's also an example of
the
idea that there are no mistakes on a wiki. So you did something not
right?
Great, that means you contributed. So we fix it (collaboratively) and improve your contribution, no harm done.
That said, auto sign and a reply button would be a *whole* lot
friendlier
than what we have now, and would be great improvements over the current situation.
Flow definitely has a reply button, and automatic signing as well, but I can't help but think that just those features in isolation would be
better
then completely overhauling talk pages.
--Martijn
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