Hoi, I am really interested to learn how you come to the conclusion that most projects are quite mature. If anything given the statistics that are available to us all I would come to exactly the other conclusion.
- For most languages the localisation is still abysmal - Most projects have so little content, new content or changed content that they hardly make a dent in butter - More then half of our projects, probably two thirds are not involved in issues that have to do with the Wikimedia Foundation, without their presence we do not have a clue what we can do for these people these projects.
When you talk about freedom, you have to appreciate that freedom exists in relation to others. When communities exist of single individuals or small groups that dominate by pressing their point of view. Several of these "freedoms" effectively prevent many other legitimate people joining these projects because they do not recognise themselves in what should be their project .
While I agree with you that freedom is an important ingredient for the well being of projects and communities, many projects do not have the size and the basic set of values that you would recognise as essential for the success of those projects.
Thanks, GerardM
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Renata St renatawiki@gmail.com wrote:
I may be hopelessly naive about this, but my general experience would seem to suggest that there's not really a need for this, because folks who are attracted to Wikimedia projects tend to share our (deep down) core values. If not, our various communities tend to push them in that direction fairly strongly.
Attempting to impose en.wikipedia's worldview on things like this is probably doomed to failure, in my opinion... it's almost the online version of pushing a colonialist agenda.
Totally agree that this is not necessary - much paperwork, discussion, !voting, etc and very very little actual benefit.
Most projects are quite mature and settled their own rules, standards, etc. Coming in as a "big boss from foundation" and telling to change things around will only cause resentment.
I think the only global principle that's true to all projects is FREEDOM. Both in $ and (c) sense. So give the projects another freedom: decide its own policies.
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