I cannot believe I am saying this; but I totally agree with Russavia.
Wil; why not have a go contributing to some WP articles and seeing what your experience is.
We have a comment statement that gets made on flame threads, which boils down to "isn't there an article you could be writing?"
Tom
On 28 May 2014 21:44, Russavia russavia.wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Wil,
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Wil Sinclair wllm@wllm.com wrote:
As you can see there is a lot of consternation being directed your way, and at some stage, and this will teach you well for the future as well, you have to learn to walk away from the keyboard. If you can't do this, and I have a feeling you might have difficulty doing so, try to at least delay hitting the send button, but this is something else you may have trouble doing. This is especially important on this list, as there is a sending limit per month that people are able send, and this is obviously done to prevent the drowning out of other participants by any single person....you would likely be well on your way to this limit by now.
Wil, if you truly wanted to see how the projects work, usually the best way is to get involved at the ground level. Some people may want to make some edits on Wikipedia to an article on a subject that interest them. Others might add some information on one of their favourite holiday spots on Wikivoyage. Others might prefer to take a photo of their penis and upload it to Commons. There are literally plenty of ways for a n00b get involved on our projects.
You have missed an opportunity here to be able to help Lila with her new job.
Firstly, this is Lila's moment to shine and an opportunity for the community to get to know her and vice versa. It's a bit difficult for a sense of trust to be built when you have an overbearing partner essentially publicly pushing her aside and taking all of our attention. For example, I really don't know much about Lila, but I know more about you. And that presents a massive problem, and believe you me, others are thinking it, I'm willing to say it publicly.
Secondly, as a n00b, you would have been a great person for Lila to use as a sounding board as to how it is for new editors on our projects to be able to edit and understand how to navigate our projects. You may not be aware but our projects have a dire editor retention rate, and your experiences, given that it is evident you are green to our projects, may have been able to help Lila understand that particular issue.
Getting involved as you have done has only gone to serve Wikipediocracy by handing them the best PSA they could hope for on a silver platter.
Having said that, if you want to get involved on Commons, #wikimedia-commons is full of helpful editors who might be able to give you some further ideas on how to contribute to that project.
Learn the ropes first; there's plenty of time for wikipolitics and the like later on.
Cheers
Russavia
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