Hi Quim and Paulo,
Like anything we lose as a movement (see also Wikipedia Zero), I am very sorry for this decision, for those who worked and for those who were comfortable with the platform. I was not, as I am not with Phabricator (despite being a developer). It's a matter of habits and preferences, of course, so my opinion has the same value as someone else who loves them. I don't really know the whole situation (expenses, number of users etc), but I think we shouldn't have the same philosophy as Google, which lets go of products that - not only from a commercial point of view, but in terms of use - they didn't have the turnout expected. We are different and I may be sentimental, but I expect that we keep the projects standing even if we have only one user.
Camelia
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Il giorno mar 18 feb 2020 alle ore 11:44 Paulo Santos Perneta < paulosperneta@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Hello Quim,
I knew this was a possibility, but it still is a big surprise for me that the WMF has not recognized the enormous value and potential of Wikimedia Space, which was a space incredibly more friendlier and easier to use than anything I've ever seen onwiki. As we discussed last November in WikiIndaba, it only needed to be somehow connected to the Wikimedia Projects, so that we could get the notifications there - as a standalone project it's very difficult to follow, since apart from real life we have mail, social networks, chats - and the wikimedia projects constantly draining attention and competing for time.
But... All the investment, all the information shared there, will be lost?
I suspect that after this last debacle of Wikimedia Space, it will be considerably more difficult for people to embark in more new WMF adventures. It was already difficult with this one.
Bad decisions at top level -> lots of money wasted, valuable WMF staff time and expertise wasted... and a lot of volunteer time and expertise, and community goodwill burned for nothing, like if we have plenty of that.
Best, Paulo
Quim Gil qgil@wikimedia.org escreveu no dia terça, 18/02/2020 à(s) 10:31:
Last year, the Wikimedia Foundation launched Wikimedia Space to
experiment
with new ways to connect volunteers, increase movement participation, and showcase community stories. While we remain committed to this important goal, based on lessons learned through the Space prototype, the
Foundation
has decided to close Discuss Space. The Space blog, which continues to
fill
a need to share news for the movement by the movement, will continue in a new home. Please continue to submit community-focused stories [1], so
that
we may share them with the movement.
To learn more about the next steps, check the full announcement at https://space.wmflabs.org/2020/02/18/next-steps-on-wikimedia-space/
We have learned a lot from this initiative and want to thank all Space users [2] for their time and contributions. We also invite everyone interested in documenting lessons learned and discussing next steps to
join
us in taking this effort even further, either at the About Wikimedia
Space
category in Discuss [3] or the Space talk page in Meta [4].
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Space/Editorial_guidelines#How_to_...
[2] https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/u?period=all [3] https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/c/about-wikimedia-space/2 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Space
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