On Sep 29, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 September 2010 22:37, Aude aude.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
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Regret I was really not involved much in the trial or polls (mostly been on wiki break for the past ~9 months) but quite concerned now given Risker's concerns about the software being buggy and other issues.
And seeing people that I have lots of respect for in hot debate (both sides) concerns me... seems tricky to find the right balance and solution for moving forward.
[maybe setting rights to bureaucrats or some higher level for now? Allowing only more narrow testing maybe in non-article space or something? Until we can decide what/how/when to move forward with next trial...just throwing ideas out]
Anyway, I would like to be more informed and try testing in some test space (is there a test wiki for this?) and some summary of the key issues that I can see?
The test wiki is here: http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (MZMcBride seems to be the most responsive local bureaucrat, if you want to have admin permissions there.)
The current list of bugzillas being worked on is here (cribbed from RobLa's post)
We're currently tracking the list of items we intend to complete in Bugzilla. You can see the latest list here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25293
Many of the items in the list are things we're looking for feedback on: Bug 25295 - "Improve reviewer experience when multiple simultaneous users review Pending Changes" https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25295
Bug 25296 - "History style cleanup - investigate possible fixes and detail the fixes" https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25296
Bug 25298 - "Figure out what (if any) new Pending Changes links there should be in the side bar" https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25298
Bug 25299 - "Make pending revision status clearer when viewing page" https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25299
Bug 25300 - "Better names for special pages in Pending Changes configuration" https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25300
Bug 25301 - "Firm up the list of minor UI improvements for the November 2010 Pending Changes release" https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25301
Also cribbed from RobLa's message: Ongoing use of Pending Changes is contingent upon consensus after the deployment of an interim release of Pending Changes in November 2010, which is currently under development. The roadmap for this deployment is described here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pending_Changes_enwiki_trial/Roadmap
On looking at the bugzillas, I note that many of the more serious issues identified in the Roadmap are not addressed. I will leave it to RobLa to explain that rationale.
Thanks. Will look tomorrow.
Don't know if I can be much help (I tend to stay far away from hot potatoes like this) but maybe someone w/ fresh eyes (me and others?) can look at the situation and help suggest ways to alleviate concerns that are agreeable to people on both sides of the debate and help move things forward.
Just don't like seeing good folks split like this.
@aude
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