On 4/12/08, effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com wrote:
2008/4/11, Brion Vibber brion@wikimedia.org:
We already went through this discussion internally. The document as written is quite explicit that constructive discourse is something to be encouraged and is not being restricted in any way -- I certainly wouldn't have signed it otherwise.
I notice over and over again in this discussion that it is quite hard to discuss a document that we have not read. Maybe we should wait until the Board or Mike releases that proposal, so that we can discuss it properly (or not discuss at all, but wait until it has been accepted, which makes community discussion kind of useless)
BR, Lodewijk
As a matter of pure factual accuracy, an acceptance of a resolution or signing a bilaterally binding agreement, does not make community discussion useless. Far from it. Silent acquiescence, even after the fact, to bad works (if any) by the board or staff, when they are of an institutional nature, - rather than personal peccadilloes - serves a very useful role, in steering such bodies away from moving further along that course in the future.
Now I do not know that what is approved eventually if at all, is what a fair person would describe as a bad piece of work, but the general point stands.
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]