Ehm, you probably misunderstood me. I did not try to say that they will not be accepted, I tried exactly to avoid saying things like that. I think we cannot make any decision on that - and that the question is more complicated than it is put now. Chapcom has not been invented for academic matters, but for actual applications. Therefore, imho, it is better to first examine what you want to do, get started with what you dont need a chapter status for anyway, and grow the community that way. Get to know each other, and see if you need a chapter status - based on what you are planning and doing (and whether you could just work with the existing structures within and outside Wikimedia). Once you have enough people, and you are of the opinion you need such status, you are of course free to request it. Before that moment, I think it is not very useful to get into theoretical what-if discussions about who should be asked etc.
Best,
Lodewijk
2010/9/27 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
Hoi, So you want them to first organise things with the understanding that they will not be accepted as a chapter? In the language committee we have the grace to first decide on eligibility and then decide if all the requirements are met.
Yes I understand your reasoning but it means either that you do not expect them to get to the stage of realisation or think that it is expedient not to do discuss it at this time. Thanks, GerardM
On 27 September 2010 11:42, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
lets first await how things develop, whether there are enough people
being
involved, if a chapter is actually the most useful format for their activities in the first place - before we are going to get into the whole political question of whether Kosovo is a seperate jurisdiction or not
and
what WMRS' role would be in that.
Lodewijk
2010/9/27 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
Hoi, I doubt very much that political considerations should be part of the
set
up of a chapter. Asking the Serbian chapter for an opinion is fine. Giving them a vote on this is not. Given that Kosovo is a separate jurisdiction
means
that it fulfils the basic requirement. Given that Hong Kong and New
York
have chapters the case for Kosovo to have a chapter is at least as
strong
if not stronger. Thanks, GerardM
On 27 September 2010 11:09, Nikola Smolenski smolensk@eunet.rs
wrote:
On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 18:29 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote:
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 14:58, Daniel ~ Leinad <
danny.leinad@gmail.com
wrote:
Look here
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Step-by-step_chapter_creation_guide
Plus to convince voting ChapCom members enough that it is good idea
to
convince WM Serbia that it is a good idea.
As a non-voting member of ChapCom and Board member of WM RS I can confirm that the harder task is to convince ChapCom.
As a non-voting board member of WM RS, I am highly doubtful of such a confirmation.
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