He didn't want to talk about which topic areas, but I have a pretty good idea of a few of them.
I would hazard a guess that nuclear weapons design is one of them; there's a diagram on-wiki that would have been Top Secret - Restricted Data - Secure Compartmented Information - Sigma 16 until December 2000, when it was rephrased a bit.
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.comwrote:
I don't understand the "no"; you seem to be agreeing with Nathan...
On 8 April 2013 21:19, Fred Bauder fredbaud@fairpoint.net wrote:
No, some information which is classified is also contained within reliable published sources available to the public and we use that information in our articles, along with occasional original research which may due to good guesses also contain such information. There are not two separate worlds of reliable classified information and reliable unclassified information; they overlap.
For example, if Mongolia purchases MIG aircraft that will result in an intelligence bulletin; but also there may be an AP story. The summary of classified information about the planes Mongolia has may have an inferior, but more or less accurate, Wikipedia counterpart article about the Mongolian air force, which if copied to the Intelligence wiki looks like it contains "secret" information, which, presumably the full file on Mongolian armed forces probably is.
Fred
In other words, the problem was people were uploading Wikipedia articles which the government thought included classified information? And because the pages were already public uploaders assumed they were unclassified, but because the government is nuts, they were wrong.
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:06 PM, George Herbert <
george.herbert@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Romaine Wiki romaine_wiki@yahoo.com wrote:
On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:31:29, Fred Bauder fredbaud@fairpoint.net wrote:
I can't see what would be sensitive in the article..
I think that the existence of the article is considered too sensitive for them, not realizing that all information is already elsewhere on the internet.
A couple of years ago, the guy in charge of the CIA's internal MediaWiki (the Intelligence Wiki, which they added classification levels etc) did a talk at ... Usenix? LISA? One of their conferences.
He was talking about challenges. The code certification was interesting. The Wiki project getting in trouble for having (US classified) Secret, Top Secret, or Top Secret SCI (Secure Compartmented Information) in the "Open-unclassified" category *due to Wikipedia uploads/imports* was apparently a major ongoing pain point for the whole organization.
Fortunately not one that was being exposed to the public, other than his talk...
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