For almost 2 years I was put under intense harassment on English Wikipedia by one the vilest groups that Wikipedia has seen--the EEML,[1] and one of the accusations that was often levelled against me is that I was an agent of the Russian government. And for 2 years the "Community" stood by and did absolutely nothing -- except for blocking me numerous times and eventually indefinitely topic banning me. In fact, the suggestion was even made by a long-standing member of the "Community" that an anonymous tip should be made naming me as a Russian spy.[2]
Such accusations are never acceptable, and Trillium Corsage should be shown the door completely with their backdoor continued accusations which are made without a shred of proof.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:EEML [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Eastern_Eu...
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, Trillium Corsage, I'd say that's a reason for banning you again. It's a very serious allegation you're implying about a longstanding member of our community.
Risker
On 11 July 2014 14:24, Trillium Corsage trillium2014@yandex.com wrote:
Hi Fae,
I was banned from the list by Austin Hair. I had contributed in my view a lot of good and polite stuff that was reasonably reasoned, but he banned
me
on the basis of a 17-word parenthetical phrase regarding arbitrator Timotheus Canens. I said that I had read it claimed that he was connected to Chinese military intelligence. Is that a reason to ban me? I emailed him, and then repeat emailed him to talk to me about it. I was met by silence.
I wasn't going to get upset about it, and didn't. I figure Austin just another type who got moderator privilege on a mailing list. It's not even worth it to criticize him, but I guess I'll notice he banned me within minutes, and he hasn't posted to the list anything since, and I don't recall him ever contributing a email of substantive opinion since I
joined
the list.
I logged on here today with the aim of unsubscribing to the list, but
I'll
keep reading long enough to see if your below email asking for
transparency
on the list goes anywhere. Good luck.
Trillium Corsage
11.07.2014, 11:28, "Fæ" faewik@gmail.com:
Hi,
I would like to propose that this list have a published process for post moderation, banning and appeals. Perhaps a page on meta would be a good way to propose and discuss a policy? I would be happy to kick off a draft.
This list has a defined scope at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l which explains who the 3 list admins are, but no more than that. There is no system of appeals, no expected time limits on bans or moderation, nor an explanation of the 30 posts per month "behavioural norm" that sometimes applies to this list. Neither is there any explanation of what is expected of list admins, such as whether there is an obligation to explain to someone who finds themselves subject to moderation or a ban, as to why this has happened and what they ought to do in order to become un-banned or un-moderated.
I believe this would help list users better understand what is expected of them when they post here and it may give an opportunity to review the transparency of list administration, such as the option of publishing a list of active moderated accounts and possibly a list of indefinitely banned accounts where these were for behaviour on the list (as opposed to content-free spamming etc.)
I see no down side to explaining policy as openly as possible.
Thoughts?
Fae
faewik@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae (P.S. I am active on the English Wikipedia where I have a GA on the go, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fae. Sorry to disappoint, but reports of my retirement are premature.)
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