Hoi, Why choose exactly one of the few issues where we have a policy? A policy that does what it is designed to do? Why not choose the more thorny issues like how to collaborate between projects. How to deal with vandals who jump from one project to the next. How to improve the usability of Commons. How to help the small projects by mentoring their admins. How to determine the limits of the self determination that is largely there for all projects. How to deal with your freedom, when you want to limit the freedom of others. What are the values that we expect in our projects and how do you allow for the maturity of projects.. What lessons can be learned from policies that are markedly different from the ones you are familiar with..
I agree with Milos that there is sufficient that can be done. So get involved in the things that are not done yet. It is the best way to start because you do not start with confrontation. When there is a working body that has shown its value, we can talk about the start of new projects / languages as well.. Thanks, GerardM
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Andrew Gray shimgray@gmail.com wrote:
2008/5/13 Andrew Gray shimgray@gmail.com:
The astute reader will, by now, have noticed a certain similarity between these approaches. If it wasn't working the first time, simply naming it "governance" won't make it work better the second time...
I omitted to include a conclusion here. Ooops.
What we need to do is to actually figure out what governing *needs* done - what issues aren't getting decided now that need thrashed out?
- and then work out why it is our existing structures don't let us do
that.
Simply arguing over which new theoretical structure we should install on top of what we already have is doomed to failure, because we're arguing in a vacuum...
The greatest needs for governance would in my opinion would be developing policy for new languages and new projects (or, possibly, merging projects).
Thanks, Pharos
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