In our case the a few volunteers running (organizing) edit-a-thons, met with a few key persons who patrollers to discuss the dilemma. And so changes and new variants for the patrollers work were introduced, at the same time as the introduction to newbees by volunteers was somewhat changed.
These small changes helped a lot (but not 100%)
Anders
Den 2020-02-26 kl. 11:33, skrev Camelia Boban:
This is not an accusation email to see who is the culprit, but rather a discussion to see what can be done to improve, since we have a very big problem of retention and loss of users.
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Il giorno gio 20 feb 2020 alle ore 02:50 Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com ha scritto:
It would be nice to have a tool for long standing editors to clean up a newbies talk page for them, leave messages for the overeager templaters, and help them out / welcome them in untemolsted language.
Then a little ML could go a long way in guessing which newbies are in this situation and generating a queue for newbie-care. ~~~
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On Wed., Feb. 19, 2020, 4:35 p.m. Andy Mabbett, <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
I have just come across a case on en.Wikipedia where the daughter of an article subject added details of his funeral (his death in 1984,w as already recorded) and his view about an indent in his life.
Her six sequential edits - her first and only contribution to Wikipedia - totalled 1254 characters, and were conducted over the space of 30 minutes. They were no the best quality, lacking sources, but were benign, and exactly what one might expect an untutored novice to do as a first change.
As well as being reverted, she now has three templates on her talk page; two warning her of a CoI, and sandwiching one notifying her of a discussion about her on the COI noticeboard. These total 4094 characters or 665 words.
How do other projects deal with such cases?
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