As far as I'm aware, as a long standing matter of practice, WMF sites run the latest stable or development Mediawiki, as a matter of "eating our own dog food". That implies that the notice was merely a courtesy because the change was expected to cause downtime, rather than a point of discussion. My understanding is barring technical problems caused by an upgrade, individual projects have about the same chances to switch their project to Microsoft Sharepoint as they do to hold back an upgrade. This may seem unusual because everything else revolves around discussion, but the developers and sysadmins need consistency to be able to support as many projects as WMF hosts - otherwise they'd probably be looking at having 2-3 devs for each project in each language, which is simply unfeasible even with WMF's resources.
-Stephanie
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, What would more notice achieve ?
The process of installing release 1.17 is important. It did not succeed for now but I hope it will be tried again when feasible. There are improvements in 1.17 where people have been waiting for for a long time. Thanks, GerardM
On 8 February 2011 15:58, Bartol Flint winters1c@gmail.com wrote:
Did this something to have do with the downtime today. I saw different language project were not working at the same time. Some page still don't look right. the box are broken and tools are not working.
More notice earlier please. Thank you.
-- Bartol Flint Student Erasmus University Rotterdam
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Guillaume Paumier <gpaumier@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Concerns have been raised that this needed wider distribution. Please note that it will happen in about 10 hours from now.
-------- Message transféré -------- De: Rob Lanphier robla@wikimedia.org Reply-to: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org À: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sujet: [Wikitech-l] Planned 1.17 deployment on February 8 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:45:30 -0800
Hi everyone,
Just repeating something I just posted to http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2011/02/planned-1-17-deployment/
The engineering team is busy working on the deployment of the 1.17 branch of MediaWiki[1]. We plan to roll this out next week to all languages and projects, Tuesday, February 8, with work starting at 07:00 UTC (which is 11pm on Monday, February 7 for San Francisco).
If all goes well, you should only notice the improvement. If it doesn’t
go
well, that’s because there’s something we missed, and that’s where we’d love your help. Please help us test this release! We have a test instance of the software we plan to deploy available at http://prototype.wikimedia.org/. If you find issues, please report them in Bugzilla: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bugzilla
There are many, many little fixes and improvements that have gone into
1.17
(see the draft release notes[2] for an exhaustive list) . There isn’t
much
that’s visible to users of the site, but one under the hood improvement that should result in some speed improvements: Resource Loader[3]. Resource Loader optimizes the use of JavaScript in MediaWiki, speeding up delivery of JavaScript by compressing it sometimes, and cutting down on the amount of unused JavaScript that gets delivered to the browser in the first place. Much of the work in this development cycle has been centered on ensuring compatibility with the new system. Since it makes such a large shift in the way that JavaScript is delivered to the browser, it’s also an operational aspect we’ll be keeping a close eye on, as load shifts between servers in our infrastructure.
Note that this isn’t a release for download, yet. On and after February
8,
the “latest” version of MediaWiki will still be 1.16 as listed on mediawiki.org. We plan to update this to 1.17 sometime after the deployment of the 1.17 branch, after we’ve had time to run it in production for a while and fix the issues we’re likely to find.
So please, help us test this release, and if you find bugs, please report them in Bugzilla. Thanks!
Rob
[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_roadmap/1.17 [2]
http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_17/phase3/RELEASE-NO...
[3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader [4] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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