Walter van Kalken wrote:
I will send it again as I am under the impression nobody read it.
Anthere wrote:
then, I suppose you would rather support the idea of letting new languages develop on a seed wiki... and see to which point it is viable ?
This still raise the issue of "when do we consider a language should be removed from the seed wiki and put in the live wiki" (even though the entire content might be a hoax :-)) ?
Why do it difficult with seedwiki's. Give languages a chance on a real wiki for say three months. If they haven't created 100 articles of some length by then (so not 1 line, but lets say approx 10 lines at least) we lock them.
We have any number of languages with Wikis that never got anywhere, and it's very difficult to get rid of them. Having new languages in a separate project impresses on people the need to perform or have the project killed. It leaves them under the axe.
By doing this you help a language to seriously start up and give people in the fledgling community someone to learn from. The adopter could even help think of a strategy to make the fledgling wikipedia reach at least 100 articles of reasonable quality.
Ultimately, the survival of a project will depend on the speakers of the language. The adopter could be helpful, but it may not be his language.
This way we can ensure a language gets a serious chance. If the native speakers of that language do not take that chance we lock the pedia. Plain and simple.
Eventually it could even be deleted. Perhaps lock it after three months of complete inactivity; delete it after six months.
Give people a fair chance. Do not make a decision by voting.
I agree that voting gets us nowhere. Better to have a standard for starting and retaining a seed wiki, and a higher standard for promoting it to full wiki status.
If there are a couple of people (could be even one very active person) who claim they speak the lingo and an experienced wikipedian willing to adopt the language give it a chance. This is equal opportunity. Everyone gets a shot. If you blow it you blow it and your next requests will not be taken seriously!
Agreed