For example, whether or not a notable town in in the global south, for instance, has an article is unlikely to affect the quality of life of its residents as much as whether infrastructure businesses in that town have access to credit. If global finance policy makers believe the typical positions of English Wikipedia economics articles, instead of the WP:MEDRS grade sources on the topic which are not well represented in Wikipedia, such as http://talknicer.com/ehip.pdf or http://talknicer.com/egma.pdf for example, that can do real harm to the likelihood that the global financial system will as readily extend inexpensive credit to the developing world.
As we get more and more information about the causation from Wikipedia to real world decisions, I hope that there is some concerted effort to address this specific issue.
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Jean-Philippe Béland jpbeland@wikimedia.ca wrote:
"As biases go, omitting notable subjects in the global south doesn't have the deleterious real-world consequences that reenforcing erroneous economic hegemony does."
How so? I don't want to go into politics topics, but with what we see recently we clearly see the danger of thinking "less" of those cultures of people...
JP
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 3:31 PM, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
Jean-Philippe, yes, absolutely:
http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/how-well-represented- is-the-mena-region-in-wikipedia/
As biases go, omitting notable subjects in the global south doesn't have the deleterious real-world consequences that reenforcing erroneous economic hegemony does.
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Jean-Philippe Béland jpbeland@wikimedia.ca wrote:
Good day,
This is not related to gender bias, but an observation I made from
reading
this paper. Table 1 shows the different percentage of overlap between different languistic versions of Wikipedia with the English Wikipedia. Do anybody know if there are studies or reports focussed on that?
For example, I notice that the Wikipedia with the less overlap from the above-mentioned table is the Arabic Wikipedia. To me, it seems to
indicate
another sort of bias on the English Wikipedia and other "Western"
language
Wikipedias in not necessarily including biographies from those parts of
the
world. Or maybe there is another "glass ceiling" not based on gender, meaning that somebody from the Middle East for instance needs to be more notable in average to be included on the English Wikipedia comparatively
of
somebody in North America or Europe. Do we have any analysis of that? Is that a question that is brought up in reflexions about bias?
Thank you,
JP
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 3:55 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
The article was discussing the proportion of articles about specific gender and possible reasons why this situation exists. What I mentioned was simply one among many potential explanation.
James
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Eduardo Testart etestart@gmail.com wrote:
Hi again,
I think the article is not related to paid editing, if you wish to
discuss
that subject, you should probably open another thread.
It would be nice if the discussion and comments can be kept on topic
:)
Cheers,
El sept. 22, 2017 3:49 PM, "James Heilman" jmh649@gmail.com
escribió:
How do we know? Those who work extensively in this topic area and are good at picking up paid editing make an educated guess. There are well known patterns that represent paid editing. We could likely build a tool that could look at all BLPs and give a numerical value to the percentage that are most likely written for pay. If you look at a random group of new BLPs at WP:NPP you will also get a decent idea.
James
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Andy Mabbett andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 22 September 2017 at 18:24, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com
wrote:
> We know that a sizable proportion of articles > about people are paid for by the individual themselves or their > representative.
We do? How? And what size is that "sizable proportion"?
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