Well, Wil, I caught your early posts there and was of the impression you joined to protect the privacy of a member of your family. And out of respect for that I declined to ask the question you seemed to be begging to be asked.
You wouldn't be the first Wikimedian who felt that was a necessary action.
Risker
On 23 May 2014 21:36, Wil Sinclair wllm@wllm.com wrote:
Doesn't it strike you as odd that the question came from an active wikipediocracy memeber?
Honestly, I hadn't thought about it. I'm much more interested in the question that who asked it.
You know where 4chan is I assume.
No, actually. Can you tell me? What is it?
Again you cite free speech. In effect you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your activity is that it's not literally illegal (XKCD 1357 alt text)
I agree this is a bit confusing. I don't mean it in a legal sense- which one might well argue that's the only sense it has- but in a more social sense. I ask that if you don't like what I'm doing or saying, that you take it out on me by excising your own right to free speech by criticizing me, my actions, and my words- not on Lila through WP politics.
Thats your opinion. Wikipedia is a fairly mature project at this point.
We
are where we are as the result of over a decade of refinement by
thousands
of people with each of those refinements destruction tested against whatever the internet can throw at them.
Yeap. It's my opinion. And I also think that Wikipedia is an amazing achievement. Congrats and thanks to all of you!
Given the size of the project and your fairly breath interaction with it what makes you think that you are in a position to make that judgement?
Sorry, what do you mean by "breath interaction"?
Not really. The issue had already been brought up on a thread on wikipediocracy that you were posting on. Makes your claim that "I'm just asking what the current policies are." lack a certain credibility.
Ah. Sorry. I was referring to the questions I asked on this list. After discussing it there, I wanted to figure out what the current policies were from the source. It was pretty hard to track down everything on WP and WM, so thanks everyone for all the links! Do you have the link to that thread? Maybe we should post it so that people can see what you're talking about.
The relevant talk page has over 100 entries in its archives.
Are you saying that I should discuss it there instead?
I'm not aware of anyone planning to have you arrested. The US right to
free
speech involves governments something wikipedia is not. Sure wikipedia is pretty extreme on the spectrum on the degree of speech is will allow but that doesn't change the fact your right to free speech is between you and your government.
Sure. I may not have used the right word. My apologies. I meant, please don't hold my words and actions against Lila in any way. Feel free to hold me to them, tho. :)
This is a mailing list for dealing with cross project issues. It isn't
for
getting to know people.
Ah. I guess I'll look for other places to get to know people. I'm really sorry to have bothered you here.
Eh as long as you stick to the relevant venue which is not really this mailing list. This is for people who already have the knowledge base and are trying to move into genuinely new areas or have hit an issue that
can't
be dealt with through the usual project level channels.
Yeah. It sounds like I really just barged in to the wrong place. Doh!
So not an editor?
Actually, I'm editing some. I'm about to publish an article about the modular sofa in the WMF office. It happens to be among my favorite furniture designs, and now I've got a great pic to use in the article. In addition, I plan to add some audio loops that I have made over the years doing electronic music to Commons. It would be really cool for people to have completely free loops to use in applications like Garage Band and FL Studio. Stay tuned!
I guess I'll see y'all around somewhere else. ,Wil
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