On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.comwrote:
[snip] When the usability of MediaWiki is improved, people will be encouraged to contribute to MediaWiki projects. It will be really hard to make the convoluted policies of the different Wikipedias clear. Many policies exist that on the face of it makes sense. However, when you combine them all, you get a mess that prevents people from contributing. I recently declined to write an en.wp article because I am hesitant because of all this.
Realistically, in order to make MediaWiki and Wikipedia more usable, there are two aspects. There are technical aspects that will make it easy to contribute and there are the community aspects. For the Stanton project to do the technical aspects is a no brainer; obviously they will experiment with all the technical bits and bobs and make a difference. To get some traction on the community aspects, it takes a community that acknowledges that cleanup is needed.
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For once Gerard, you and I agree 100%. I got into a similar discussion with Andrew Lih and Liam Wyatt on a recent episode of Wikipedia Weekly. And we came to the same conclusion: usability in Wikimedia projects is hindered by two things. Firstly, the usability issues within MediaWiki itself. The second being community issues.
As you say above and I said in the podcast: the usability grant will hopefully improve the usability of MediaWiki itself, and I look forward to seeing their work, for both the benefit of WMF projects and outside users of Mediawiki. However, no sum of money can solve the underlying community issues. That's for the wikis to identify and fix themselves.
-Chad