Hoi, It is a fallacy to consider all Wikidata data as one big blob. As it is, the English Wikipedia accepts particular data from Wikidata and it is expressed in its articles. Arguably the quality of "Authority control" has improved as a consequence.
In the same way "unsourced statements" exist in many ways. Consider a list of award winners. The source typically is with the award for all the people who received the award. Including for the people who do not have an article but exist as a red link. In Wikidata they do get their own item and I have observed that many of these people gain additional statements including references to for instance VIAF over time. As more information is added, the item comes alive and sometimes they are merged with other items. This has the effect that labels are added and it may mean that links in a Wikipedia should point to the one article.
Wikidata can be many things. It may become a source for the inclusion of much more data. What it already can be is a tool that helps maintain the consistency of the links of Wikipedia. With blue, red and black links linked to Wikidata, it will be relevant to help out whenever an issue is found. At this time there is no meaningful effect fixing links in a Wikipedia. Thanks, GerardM
On 27 September 2017 at 08:37, Peter Southwood <peter.southwood@telkomsa.net
wrote:
Yes, this is one of the reasons why data from Wikidata must only be included in a Wikipedia at the discretion of users of that specific Wikipedia, like images from Commons. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen Sent: Sunday, 17 September 2017 10:14 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] BLP and the Wikidata / Wikipedia controversy
Hoi, There is a lot to do about the current absence of a BLP policy at Wikidata. Many people, particularly those involved in Wikipedia, insist on one and a policy that is a mirror image of their policy.
I am opposed to such an approach because it will be detrimental to the best practices in Wikidata and it will stifle the inclusion of data. Nevertheless there is a need for better quality particularly where it concerns BLP.
Only being against is a bad position so I have laid out the arguments for a more inclusive BLP and quality approach [1]. It does bring many of the relevant questions together.
What this approach accomplishes is:
- better quality in both Wikipedia and Wikidata
- an opt in change in the Wikipedia environment that links blue and red
links to Wikidata items
- it allows for the Wikidata best practices
- it invites any Wikimedia collaborator to make a positive difference for
our overall BLP.
What it does not provide is an instant BLP solution for Wikidata, this is not realistic given the huge number of items involved, people often specific to one or no Wikipedia. It will not convince everyone and that too is to be expected. After all the proof of the pudding is in the eating and not so much in the endless bickering. Thanks, GerardM
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