Gnangarra raised some valid and interesting points here. Well, I don't have problems with WMF banning anyone from Wikimedia projects as long as there is a significant reason to do so and through a transparent process. Nonetheless, I think WMF ban should be revocable following a successful appeal. They could set up a form of appeal committee comprises of WMF Staff (maybe those from WMF legal team), AffCom member, and member of ARBCOM from the project where the incident occur as suggested by Gnangarra above.
Best,
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-----Original Message----- From: Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com Sender: "Wikimedia-l" wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgDate: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 21:20:16 To: Wikimedia Mailing Listwikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees
what this discussion reveals is that;
1. the people here want to know who at the WMF has what permissions, and a when why they were granted 2. they want a system thats has good checks and balances, 3. there is want to be able to be "consulted' during the process of Global bans.
- Number 1 is just a maintenance issue, an on Meta(maybe Foundation wiki) table of employee access would be the simplest to operate and solve rather than using a google spread sheet with a bot updating the on Meta. - the process described by James Alexander appears to meet that, though the duel role currently occurring isnt an ideal long term outlook - Create a High Court, or Supreme court type appeal process where the person affected can email the committee for a review. The committee could be comprise of WMF Legal person, Affiliate representatives(appropriate language speaker), and bureaucrats(ARBCOM member) from the project where the person was active or the event took place. With an after action appeal it doesnt impinge on any potential urgency or immediate imperative. It could even allow for the person affected to have someone advocate on their behalf.
On 18 February 2017 at 19:59, Tim Landscheidt tim@tim-landscheidt.de wrote:
Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, The problem with law enforcement is that it operaties nationally. It is
not
obvious where people are and consequently it is not obvious what jurisdiction is appropriate.
[…]
That's easy: The victim's.
Tim
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