Back to the basics.
On 5/8/07, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Part of a "Rethinking" series.)
You keep asking for "rational reasons". Many people on this thread have said it. Looking for rational arguments might not be the way to go. David Gerard, however, has given, in my opinion, the most striking of all in his last intervention, I quote:
"If you don't understand that that is a rational reason, you don't understand volunteer motivation."
But let's try and leave emotions aside. There is one thing that strikes me in this whole conversation as missing.
You argue that renaming everything Wikipedia would bring the following:
- Strength of Wikipedia brand directly reflects on other activities.
Indeed. Wikipedia is a strong brand, I'll grant you that. Let's push the reasoning a bit further. Is it a "positive brand"? ie. will it really shed light on the other projects once they are called "Wikipedia somethingorother"?
We can argue that yes, Wikipedia is a positive brand. I will argue that it is a positive brand for what it is.
Wikipedia has something on everything. Wikipedia is always up to date Wikipedia is (almost) as good as Britannica Wikipedia is free as in beer Wikipedia is free as in speech Wikipedia is user generated content and allows everyone to share their knowledge etc.
However, we also have:
Wikipedia is unreliable (Hmmm. Not good for Wikipedia books -Wikibooks-, that) Wikipedia has been banned as a source from X and Y news agency (Not good for Wikipedia News -Wikinews- to ever be recognized as a source of news) Wikipedia cannot be quoted by students in universities (So much for Wikipedia source -Wikisource- as a comprehensive source of original works) (So much for ever hoping Wikipedia learning -Wikiversity- is ever going to be anything) (So much for trying to slip Wikipedia books -Wikibooks- into schools) etc.
In the end, I find that one of your "rational" (well, I suppose you deem them rational) reason to undergo such a change is set on a strong personal opinion that Wikipedia everything is the way to go, because It Is Good (TM), because It Will Bring More Cash (TM) and because It Is Better Known (TM). In the end, I find this hardly rational.
For the record, I agree with the fact that our brands are messy. I even agree that we should try to rename some of the projects, but I would do so in the hope of giving them a chance to escape the shadow of Wikipedia.
But in the end, I agree with Yann that the target audiences are not the same for all the projects, that they should not be, and that it ensures that there is a place for all possible contributors and readers. I agree with Andreas and David Gerard that emotion is also a big part of the rational reasons why we should not consider a change in the "Wikipedia all" direction. I agree with Kelly that we should be trying to shed more light on other Wikimedia projects. And I strongly disagree with your statement, which again is posed as a rational reason, but which I believe is not, that the media pressure is so big on the other Wikimedia projects that they all have to achieve the success of Wikipedia. Where is it written that this is the case? Have you polled the active communities in the other projects about this? In any case, on this I agree with Brianna that hits in Google are a lame unit to measure the success (or lack thereof) of a project (and I agree with Brianna on millions of other things she wrote).
Most of all, I am convinced that although Wikipedia may be the best known of our projects, our true mission (distribute free knowledge and even "free" the knowledge) will be achieved on a much greater scale through our other projects. It's Wikibooks you'll find in schools. It's free images from Commons you find in the newspaper everywhere, it's Wikisource academics are pointed to to have access to documents that are found nowhere else... Not Wikipedia.
Wikipedia is an amazing tool to bring everyone to the core of our mission. As such, we should protect it, brand and all. I don't believe, however, that Wikipedia is some magic wand that suddenly unites the whole world. It may sound cool to be called "Wikipedia somethingorother" but it does not reflect our diversity, which I believe is our greatest strength.
Delphine