I think the proposal was to publish whether or not specific chapters have voted at all, not what their votes specifically were.
J
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel < itzik@wikimedia.org.il> wrote:
I'm against publishing the chapters votes before the end of the elections. More than that - I even offered before the election started that the chapters votes will be confidential between them and be collected by the moderators.
I believe that each chapter needs to vote as he think, not be looking on others votes and decide by the way the wind's blowing. This is the way most elections are done.
After the election, I don't have problem that the chapters votes will be publish publicly.
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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com wrote:
Hello,
I am unable to report which chapters voted. The voting process is closed. Right now I have to recommend encouraging all chapters to vote.
The election rules are decided by chapters and chapters have said closed election. I do not think this was a well-discussed rule, but whatever the case, it cannot be changed by the community and needs to be changed by chapters. Community discussion could influence it. I think that it is a rule that could change. Asking chapters to have open voting could be another reason to contact chapters, or open voting might be a problem - I am not sure.
Even if voting were not completely open, there could be other kinds of openness, like just a list of who voted. Right now, I cannot provide
that.
Any chapter can look at the list and see who voted and who did not.
For the next election (in three years) I will propose a change. I want it to be easier for chapters to self-report their votes in a public way, if they choose to do so. Even if the election is closed, enough individual chapters seem to want to self-disclose.
yours,
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
Hi Lane,
While I agree that it's good for people to encourage their chapters/other organizations to vote, we would need to know whether they've voted before doing this...
As far as I can see, the voting is entirely done on chapterswiki - which is fair enough, and it's reasonable to have this semi-private. However, it means that the only people who can tell if a given chapter has voted or not are people closely associated with the chapters, who presumably already know whether they've voted or not.
Would it be possible to have a public list of which organizations have voted and which ones have yet to do so? I don't think this would materially affect the confidentiality of the vote itself, and it might help encourage some groups to actually vote.
Andrew.
On 3 May 2016 at 12:43, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com wrote:
Hello,
As of now, 13 of 42 eligible organizations have voted in the 2016
chapters'
election for 2 of 10 Wikimedia Foundation seats on the board of
trustees.
In the last election, 1/3 of organizations did not vote. Anyone who
wishes
to influence the election could do so by asking sleepier chapters to
vote
by the May 7 end of election.
Feel free also to pressure more active chapters to do their duty to
support
less organized chapters in voting. Support can mean having chapter-to-chapter encouragement to vote. All chapters appreciate
being
reminded. All eligible organizations are supposed to vote. The
election
result is more sound with more votes.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016
yours,
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