Although we maybe only doing this for Wikipedia, here's a few comparisons / ideas
== Projects * domains:
(subdomain) en.wp.org / Title de.wt.org / Title (de.wiktionary) c.wm.org / Title (commons.wikimedia)
(directory) wp.org / en / Title wt.org / de / Title (de.wiktionary) wm.org / c / Title (commons.wikimedia)
== Editions * Project * domains
enwp.org / Title dewt.org / Title wikimediacommons.org / Title
== 1 domain ?
(directory) wi.ki / p / en / Title (Wikipedia EN) wi.ki / t / de / Title (Wiktionary DE wi.ki / commons / Title (Wikimedia Commons)
(interwiki root) wi.ki / w:en:Title wi.ki / t:de:Title wi.ki / commons:Title
Personally, I like the 1domain-root and projects-subdomains solution. Just a few thoughts :)
-- Krinkle Op 8 mei 2011, om 15:59 heeft Gerard Meijssen het volgende geschreven:
Hoi, The wp.org is probably for sale ... It makes more sense to acquire that domain. Thanks, GerardM
On 8 May 2011 15:18, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoekstra@gmail.com wrote:
Back to the issue at hand though: Thomas is (quite generously) offering the enwp.org domain. Would the foundation like to have it?
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:58 AM, Mono mium monomium@gmail.com wrote:
I looked into this once...the domain price was quite steep or I would have gotten it. However, a donation might be possible.
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Waldir Pimenta waldir@email.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Béria Lima berialima@gmail.com
wrote:
I preffer wp.org (if is possible) to make internationalization easier.
So
to en.wiki would be "en.wp.org", de.wiki "de.wp.org" and etc.
For the record (sorry I'm late btw :P), I had independently contacted
the
owners of wp.org shortly before this thread came up, and they basically
said
that even though they supported Wikipedia (they had even donated in the past), the domain has too much potential value (WordPress, the
Washington
Post, etc) for them to hand it over.
I also thought about this multi-language facet of Wikimedia, which is further aggravated by the existence of multiple projects. That is, even wp.org would have problems too, since we'd then need to get one for wikinews, commons, etc. The best solution would be IMO getting the
domain *
wi.ki*, since this could be adapted either through prefixes (i.e., subdomains, such as en.wi.ki) or suffixes (e.g. wi.ki/en) for languages and/or project codes. In addition to that we could generate links as the current shorteners do, like wi.ki/x23yz.
Now, the wi.ki domain at first seems to be unused, but http://whois.nic.kireveals it is registered at least until 9 Jan 2012, by domaininfo.com. A search on that page reveals that wi.ki is not
available
for registration, but seems to be buyable for 696 €. We could contact
them
and ask for a partial donation, but it would work best if the request
comes
from the WMF itself. Before figuring it was already registered, I sent
an
email to organization that manages the .KI domain. The text of that
might be useful for this effect: http://pastebin.com/L0v6uz1i
Here's a quote from that message that points out some of the advantages
of
having these short urls:
*"[Wikipedia] links are often long and hard to read (for instance: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.ki&oldid=408287624 ), which makes them not only inconvenient, but also prone to reproduction
errors.
Since the practice of citation is such a critical component of
journalism
and scientific publication, minimizing this risk would bring very significant benefits for scholars, journalists, and even users who want
to
share links in social media.*
So, who supports that we request them a donation of that domain? And is anyone from the WMF willing to send them the request? (Moka?)
It's fine if the tech team doesn't want to manage the domain; I'm sure plenty of volunteers could offer to do that. But it we'd be much more
likely
to get it in the first place if the request is made officially by the
WMF.
So what do you guys think?
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