--- Delirium delirium@hackish.org wrote:
Daniel Mayer wrote:
New users and anons cant upload since undoing that is something that only admins can do. Creating new pages is also something that only admins can undo. Ergo
In a very narrow sense that's true, but any user (admin or not), may tag an article (or image) for speedy-deletion, which is in effect as good as deleting it (speedy-tagged articles rarely last more than an hour before an admin comes along and clears them out).
And that is two actions instead of one to remove patent nonsense (at least double the work). Thus it makes sense to limit the amount of patent nonsense we get (and thus that effort could be used somewhere else). Not allowing anons and newbies to upload images limits the amount of crap images we have to deal with.
If *too many* anons that would have created crap articles as IPs start to create user accounts to post new pages, then it would be logical to extend the new page creation ban to new user accounts just as we already dont allow new users to upload images. Slippery slope? Not really since there is already a ledge to land on that was created with the upload policy.
It is a matter of weighing costs vs benefits as they pertain to our goal of creating the best and largest free encyclopedia in the world. We can and should remain as open as possible for as long as possible. But we need to constantly monitor our processes to see if they are, on average, bringing us closer or farther from our goal. Once a problem area is identified we then need to act but try to do so in a deliberate and thoughtful way.
-- mav
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