Hoi Brad, I appreciate that everything that gets uploaded is not by virtue of it being uploaded to a wikimedia project GFDL licensed material. Now the crux to me is that when it is not, it is in essence in violation of the terms of the GFDL license. If this is correct, the consequence would be that material that is not available under the GFDL should not be included in a WMF project. Am I correct on this one ?
One other question, why do you single out the en.wp to take action on copyvio? What is it that makes this project special ? Would this advise not be as appropriate for any project and any language ?
Thanks, GerardM
Patrick, Brad wrote:
Not everything that is on Wikipedia is by virtue of it simply being there, magically transformed into GFDL, as you indicate. That is the essential problem, and the fallacy (some) users erroneously believe. So long as there are uploads, there will be copyvio. It must be dealt with accordingly.
To editors on en.wp in particular, don't hesitate to take action on copyvio. It is better to err on the side of caution and aggressively delete. The license problem is as much an educational problem as an actual systemic copyvio problem.
-Brad
-----Original Message----- From: juriwiki-l-bounces@wikimedia.org [mailto:juriwiki-l-bounces@wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:03 PM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Cc: juriwiki-l@mail.wikimedia.org Subject: [Juriwiki-l] Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright complaints
Hoi, The great thing of juriwiki-l is that it is in essence a big black hole.
Things get in there and it is not seen that something comes out. When it comes to issues with licenses and issues to do with the implementation of the rules many projects *choose* how to implement them. This results in content that is inconsistent with the GFDL. This in turn results in people telling organisations that use Wikipedia content that they cannot use the content as is.
In my opinion, and I am not a lawyer, the license of the Wikimedia project (GFDL) states that everything that is included in the projects needs to be available under this license. When people license things under a license that is more Free, that is fine, but it needs to allow for GFDL publication.
My question to the nice people that are also on the juriwiki-l am I correct in what I just said.
Thanks, GerardM
Patrick, Brad wrote:
You would be mistaken to conclude that the Foundation does not regard copyvio as significant. Rather, your choice of venue for discussion, i.e., Foundation-L, is not the most productive. Juriwiki-L is the place where hot copyvio action may be found more readily.
Please contact me offline to discuss particulars.
-Brad
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-----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces@wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Kim Bruning Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:34 AM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright complaints
On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 06:12:04PM +0100, Kim Bruning wrote:
This is important for wikipolitical reasons on en.wikipedia. If I lose, my right honerable opposition shall likely successfully endeavour to severely reduce copyright checks on the english
wikipedia.
The lack of response is deafening! :-P
I guess I was mistaken. :-( I take it that copyright issues and incorrect use of fair use provisions are NOT a concern for the foundation at this moment in time?
Due to the fact that copyright and fairuse checking is seen as disruptive on en.wikipedia, I suppose that priority must then be given
to the community. I shall concede this point to my opposition, and request for copyright checks on en.wikipedia to be curtailed.
sincerely, Kim Bruning
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