I just checked a few of the knol links supplied at the start of this thread and some of them have been deleted or withdrawn by their publishers.
On 7/31/08, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonavaro@gmail.com wrote:
Thomas Dalton wrote:
I can't see how content distributed under the licenses Knol offers can be reproduced in WMF projects, and I can't see how content produced under WMF's licensing options can be reproduced in Knol. To me, that raises a serious problem.
Could you explain that? My understanding was that something released under CC-BY could be used pretty much anywhere as long as it's appropriately attributed. We attribute all content on Wikipedia, so why can't we use it? (The other direction obviously can't be done, there's no dispute there, as far as I can see.)
Uhm. I fail to see how that is obvious. So there obviously is a dispute (that you didn't foresee ;)
Wholesale use of wikimedias content isn't _easily_ feasible on knol. I would say impossible, even.
Individual contributions have a more nuanced situation, where there are differing origins of the content.
Consider a case where a contributor has prior to editing their content into wikipedia, already entered their content into Public Domain. We do not as far as I know disallow use of text that has entered into the Public Domain, else we wouldn't have incorporated that old Brittish Encyclopaedic ventures text which has its copyright expired, now would we?
This kind of content can not be considered barred from being added from wikipedia to knol, or can it?
I at least don't understand how it could be. If the GFDL's viral nature is retroactive in a fashion that previously PD work is no longer usable in that manner, I must say I have understood something really really wrong.
Now if one reads Mike Godwins text closely it does say "content produced under WMF's licensing options", which, I suppose, means text that didn't exist in a published form before being entered into wikimedia. That is a very interesting turn of phrase and bears some thinking about.
Yours,
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
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