Thanks, James. I think this is an important point. So we could say we have lost a part of acedemia.
More to the point, we seem to have failed to integrate course materials and multimedia formats into Wikipedia articles.
Could we try and create some of these and integrate them into articles relevant to students in oder to test whether this makes a difference to them? Or do you think they would stick to Osmosis etc. anyway?
Best regards, Jürgen.
Am 08.01.22 um 00:38 Uhr schrieb James Heilman:
With respect to some anecdotal evidence, I have for many years asked the medical students who work with me on their clinical rotations how they study. I get a few passes through my department a month.
Most reported using Wikipedia 5 to 10 years back. Now sources like Osmosis, which are basically short video overviews with questions banks attached, are more commonly mentioned. Video is becoming a more common way for younger folks to learn.
James
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 3:55 PM Mohamed ElGohary <ircpresident@gmail.com mailto:ircpresident@gmail.com> wrote:
"Is the traffic measured where content is read" would be a better way of putting it. -- Gohary (ircpresident) On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 12:52 AM Juergen Fenn <jfenn@gmx.net <mailto:jfenn@gmx.net>> wrote: Anders raised the question how this relates to "smarter" machine-created traffic. Do we know more about this? Best Regards, Jürgen. Am 07.01.22 um 21:45 Uhr schrieb James Heilman: > Have been tracking medical pageviews for EN WP for more than 10 years. > It appears our readership peaked around 2014, there was a bump during > the pandemic, and now the fall in pageviews is continuing again... This > despite much of our pageviews for medicine continuing to be related to > the pandemic. > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Change_in_medical_pageviews_from_2009_until_2014.png <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Change_in_medical_pageviews_from_2009_until_2014.png> > <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Change_in_medical_pageviews_from_2009_until_2014.png <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Change_in_medical_pageviews_from_2009_until_2014.png>> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Popular_pages <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Popular_pages> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Popular_pages <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Popular_pages>> > > James > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 11:09 AM Toni Ristovski <toni91ehrlich@gmail.com <mailto:toni91ehrlich@gmail.com> > <mailto:toni91ehrlich@gmail.com <mailto:toni91ehrlich@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > Additionally, pandemic 2020 with a lot of lockdowns makes many > people commit to different activities, among them starting editing > on Wikipedia or reading more. Basically, in my opinion it is better > to compare with 2019 numbers. Also, it will be useful to have some > kind of survey about this which can give us a better overview of > these data. > > As I`m editor and admin on Macedonian Wikipedia, I was quite > surprised that our Wikipedia actually continues to grow in terms of > reading and having a stable editing base. > > All the best, > Toni > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 6:52 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga > <galder158@hotmail.com <mailto:galder158@hotmail.com> <mailto:galder158@hotmail.com <mailto:galder158@hotmail.com>>> wrote: > > There's another option: the 2020 pandemic lockdowns made a huge > peak on views, so year on year, 2021 has worse results. > > 2022(e)ko urt. 7(a) 18:41 erabiltzaileak hau idatzi du (Anders > Wennersten <mail@anderswennersten.se <mailto:mail@anderswennersten.se> > <mailto:mail@anderswennersten.se <mailto:mail@anderswennersten.se>>>): > > When I look at statistics for mature wikipedias: en, de pl, > nl they all > show a decrease of views of 13-15% in last 12 months from a > year ago, > and number of active editors down 10- 20 % (with exception > of en). > > Has this been analysed somewhere, are we losing our readers and > contributors or is it mostly Google that access our info > "smarter" not > creating "views" > > Anders > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/de.wikipedia.org <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/de.wikipedia.org> > <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/de.wikipedia.org <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/de.wikipedia.org>> > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org> > <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org>> > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/nl.wikipedia.org <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/nl.wikipedia.org> > <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/nl.wikipedia.org <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/nl.wikipedia.org>> > > https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/pl.wikipedia.org <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/pl.wikipedia.org> > <https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/pl.wikipedia.org 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