Yes but again as I said, most people will be looking for their languages on http://www.wikipedia.org/ or in places where interwiki links are usually found. How many out of the 5 million speakers of Central Atlas Tamazight do you think are aware that the ISO code for their language is TZM? Probably only 3 or 4 people, less than one one-millionth of the total population. So maybe it makes it easier for people who already know the test wiki exists, but what about people who doesn't? This doesn't help them.
2011/8/8 Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 20:08, Casey Brown lists@caseybrown.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Thomas Goldammer thogol@googlemail.com
wrote:
That'd be great, indeed. But if there is an article in enwiki about that language, there is always also a link to the project(s), even if it is in the incubator, example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afar_language (it's near the bottom and on the right edge, though, so one might not see it easily). Maybe one could convince the communities to have such a link in other wikipediae, too...
I was just going to bring that up too. :-)
It's obviously not a perfect solution, but it's likely that if someone were looking for a Wikipedia in their language, they'd probably type it into Google. So if we type in "Central Morocco Tamazight wikipedia", we get a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Atlas_Tamazight in the first result. They read more about what the article has to say, and then they see the link at the bottom and click on it. Much fewer steps, and at least a bit clearer/more logical.
(This is actually what we do with many of the languages, at least on enwiki. See French for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language#External_links.)
Yep. All those ideas are inside of the project on which Robins works:
- xyz.wikipedia.org will be redirect for incubator.../wiki/wp/xyz
- All existing ISO 639-3 codes will get their pages "If you know this
language, please start to write Wikipedia." Although there would be some limitations. For example, just if we are sure that the content is written in particular language, it will get *full* redirects (http://xyz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Some_Page => http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/wp/xyz/Some_Page). Without that, there will be just redirect to the main page.
- I was thinking to ask en.wp (and other Wikipedian) communities to
add a template similar to Incubator with note "If you know this language you can start Wikipedia by following this link."
There are some problems with that; Robin told me that during Wikimania. But, AFAIK, that's going to be changed during the next months; likely up to the end of the year or so.
BTW, I repeated the first two points a couple of times on this list since LangCom meeting in Berlin. And I am a bit surprised that we are passing it again. (It wouldn't be an issue if there are newcomers who wonders about it :P )
During the next week or so I'll present here what's happened on Wikimania in relation to the languages.
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