With all the good faith, and even with the good connections of WMIL with the Israeli government - lets don't forget this it is still, a government, and it is not kind of "lets ask them and they will do it just because we are Wikimedia Commons" issue. It was hard enough to explain them the ridiculous situation we are facing right now. Don't forget It's took us 3 years to convince the government to release their public photos under cc-nc, and it was a huge win and successful advocacy work for our movement that never been done before.
I'm saying that in *my personal opinion* as Wikimedians, and not I'm representing WMIL (which will continue FULLY to support the efforts on this issue) or any other official role i'm holding: but to be honest, as the situation looks right now in the commons - I don't think the government of Israel, or any other government need to behave according to the commons admins and their personal actions and opinions. From the government point of view - the photos are available online, they are free, they are no longer under copyright and they welcome everyone to uses it. Many people are already using the photos on websites, Flickrs accounts and others photos services - if the commons want to write his one rules and interpretations, even when the WMF BOT and the WMF legal staff don't fully support their steps - this is the commons and the movement problem to handle - not the government that have many others issues to handle, as this is not easy to reach and implement decision - and it rellevent to every government in the world. They are not working for us.
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Jeevan Jose jkadavoor@gmail.com wrote:
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:%D7%AA%D7%92%D7%95%D7...
Such a statement from GOI can't override US copyright law for all works originated from Israel. (as Geni said above)
But one thing they can do. They can make a statement that they have no plan to claim copyright for Govt works per URAA in USA. So all the works of Israel will become PD in USA too when they become PD in Israel.
I think this is the opinin expressed by Carl Lindberg at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Copyright/Archive/20...
Jee
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 June 2014 12:08, Craig Franklin cfranklin@halonetwork.net wrote: ...
parody/satire angle, my understanding is that a CC licence does not extinguish things such as moral rights that are not related to
copyright.
This is fundamentally misleading. Please refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_rights_%28copyright_law%29
If you have not read up on IP law, or are confused about copyright terms, I suggest having the discussion on-wiki rather than on an email list, where corrections like this either get skipped, leading to later readers thinking that these are factual statements, or we end up repeating basic copyright law endlessly.
Thanks, Fae -- faewik@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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