--- Samuel Klein <sjklein(a)hcs.harvard.edu> wrote:
> Soufron's points suggest the foundation avoid approving accreditation or
> similar processes; leaving it entirely to community groups. If someone
> wanted to sue the 'editors' for actions by someone with a press pass, they
> would have to do exactly that -- just as one would have to sue individual
> encyclopedia editors for libel.
To me they suggested that the whole process should be entirely removed. I asked
of clarification on that point.
-- mav
__________________________________
Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page!
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Soufron's points suggest the foundation avoid approving accreditation or
similar processes; leaving it entirely to community groups. If someone wanted
to sue the 'editors' for actions by someone with a press pass, they would have
to do exactly that -- just as one would have to sue individual encyclopedia
editors for libel.
> And this leads to my third and more important point. Accreditating people
> will transform the Foundation from being a publisher to becoming an editor...
The foundation is not a publisher afaik, and I don't see how any policy
decided by community members would make it an editor.
SJ
(ps - If you write for EB or publish an article in the Boston Globe, there
is someone out there protecting you from personal liability. Not so with
Wikipedia and sister projects; perhaps we need a neon warning on the edit
screen, just below the DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION.)
On 11/11/05, Jean-Baptiste Soufron <jbsoufron(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Unions accreditating journalists will certainly be mad at it (as in
> France), and it would picture the foundation as a liable editor rather
> as a not-liable publisher.
I thought it was the position of the foundation that it wasn't even a
publisher, but rather an ISP, essentially a common carrier.
Hallo alltogehter,
found this Call of Paper and thought it will be kewl if someone can
present the view of the Wikimedia Foundation. The deadline for
submissions is the 15.11.05 but when you signal interest it can be
extendet.
Contact:
Erich Schweighofer,U.Vienna&WZRI, A
Erich.Schweighofer(a)univie.ac.at
I have absolutly no time in moment to do it myself. Please write me a
short massage if you will do it ;-)
PatrickD
-----------------------------------------------------------
Call for Papers and Contributions
KnowRight 2006
Knowledge Rights –
Legal, Societal and Related Technological Aspects
http://KnowRight06.ocg.at
University of Vienna (Juridicum - Law Faculty Building)
16 - 17 February 2006
Organized by: Austrian Computer Society (OCG) jointly with
IRIS (Internationales Rechtsinformatik Symposium)
http://www.univie.ac.at/RI/IRIS2006/
CONFERENCE OUTLINE
This conference will resume the general interest of the KnowRight
Conferences, held since 1995, on the interaction of Intellectual Property
Rights, related Information Rights, Ethical Problems, and Information
Dependent Technology. It will be supported by the Austrian Computer
Society and will be held in tandem with the IRIS conference
(Internationales Rechtsinformatik Symposion). It will provide strong
emphasis on the social environment in which the intellectual and
information property system, information services, mobile applications,
e-commerce and the electronic civil society evolve.
The concept of an ”Information Society” or "Knowledge Society" is
neither well defined nor are its foundations and implications well
understood. Governments and authorities in many countries and
regions (e.g. the EU) are still discussing options to establish and
regulate at least special aspects of an Information Society. Increasingly
it becomes harder to master future technologies with traditional laws
based on national or regional methods and concepts. We have to
develop new forms of international legal regimes and practices. They
should empower coordinated means to avoid abuse of such new
technologies.. Fairness should be preserved in the emerging non-local
availability of up to now local resources. Open Source and Open
Content are investigated as examples of dynamic innovations of legal
concepts. The conference will discuss which requirements - such as
safety and security of related methods and media - must be fulfilled and
how these requirements may be enforced. Which regulations and
preventive measures should be promoted in the light of conflicting
interests. Regulating the flow of information must guarantee that
clashes between individual rights (e.g. of intellectual/ industrial
property,
privacy and data protection) and collective demands (e.g. for security,
universal access as well as preserving and expanding the heritage of
mankind) are treated and resolved in human ways. Information in the
public domain on the wired or unwired communication channels should
deserve special attention. Commercial interests should be balanced
with moral and civic obligations.
MAJOR CONFERENCE TOPICS
Intellectual Property
• Status of IP law for e-products and e-services
• Bundle of WIPO Treaties: To be enlarged?
• TRIPS: Efficient against large scale IP infringements?
• Competition and regulation in the music and video industry
• Media and entertainment law - responsibility and liability of IPproviders
• Rules for mobile applications
• Private use and fair use of intellectual property
• Rights management systems
• Open source and open content
• Open access: Copyright restrictions for science and research
• Copyright and copyleft
• Global trademarks
• Software patents
Access to and Reuse of Public Sector and Private Information
• Freedom of information and data protection
• Access to public documents
• Legal framework of public sector information reuse
• Socioeconomic conditions of PSI reuse
• Extent of and limitations on database protection in Europe
• Long term archiving of public and private information
Network Security
• Technological proposals and implementations
• Embedding regulation into hard- and software
• Regulations and their development
• Privacy and identification - electronic identities
• Authentification, authorisation and remuneration
• Electronic signatures
• Fraud on the internet: Tech-tools and legal framework
• Online policing
Data protection
• Pervasive computing
• Automatic “forgetting” of database
• Retention of data
• Legal means against violation of data protection
Information Ethics
• Information in the public domain - balancing commercial interests with
moral and civic obligations
• Fair use concept at the global level: equitable use of global and local
knowledge
• Access to personal data: protecting citizens' and users’ security and
privacy versus public interest
• Equity in the access to information (tariffs, fees, taxes)
• Special regulation for developing countries?
• Free speech and censorship
• Minors access to violence and adult content
• Age verification and privacy
• Responsibility of internet professionals
Don't feel restricted if your innovative topic fits the general purpose of
the conference but none of the special items on the list.
PROGRAM COMMITTEE (co-chairs bold)
John Bing, Univ. of Oslo, NO, - jonb(a)jus.uio.no (Jon Bing)
Walter Blocher, Vienna U Busin Adm, AT walter.blocher(a)wu-wien.ac.at
Daniele Bourcier, University of Paris II, FR - bourcier(a)msh-paris.fr
Alfred Büllesbach, Bremen,DE Alfred.Buellesbach(a)daimlerchrysler.com
Gunter Ertl, Regional Court of Appeal, AT - g.ertl(a)kabsi.at
Fernando Galindo, Univ. of Zaragoza, ES, cfa(a)posta.unizar.es
Jens Gaster, European Commission, EU - Jens.Gaster(a)cec.eu.int
Thomas Hoeren, U.of Münster, DE, - Hoeren(a)uni-muenster.de
Bernt Hugenholtz, Univ. of Amsterdam, NL, hugenholtz(a)ivir.nl
Dietmar Jahnel, University of Salzburg, AT - Dietmar.Jahnel(a)sbg.ac.at
Veith Risak, Univ.of Salzburg & Bratislava AT,CZ - risak(a)ocg.or.at
Ahti Saarenpaa, Univ. Helsinki FI, Ahti.Saarenpaa(a)ulapland.fi
Peter P Sint, Austrian Academy of Science, A - sint(a)oeaw.ac.at
(Coordinator)
A Min Tjoa, Univ. of Vienna, AT, tjoa(a)ifs.tuwien.ac.at
Erich Schweighofer,U.Vienna&WZRI, A Erich.Schweighofer(a)univie.ac.at
David Vaver, Univ.of Oxford, UK - david.vaver(a)st-peters.oxford.ac.uk
Peter Wahlgren, Univ. Stockholm, SE, Peter.Wahlgren(a)juridicum.su.se
Andreas Wiebe,Vienna U.Busin Adm.AT andreas.wiebe(a)wu-wien.ac.at
SUBMISSION OF CONTRIBUTIONS
Papers should be of high quality, original, unpublished, and not
submitted elsewhere. Authors of papers are asked to submit an
abstract or a full text version (strongly recommended) of the
respective contribution (abstract: 2-4 pages including main references,
full text: 8 to 10 pages).
The guidelines for the final version are available at
http://www.ocg.at/publikationen/books/paper.html.
Submissions of contributions to the conference be handed in as printout
and in electronic form to
Austrian Computer Society
Wollzeile 1-3
A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe
DEADLINES
• Submission of full papers or abstracts: 15 November 2005
• Notification of acceptance: 30 November 2005
• Final paper: 20 December 2006 (some extensions may be
negotiated)
Due to the tight timetable and the target to have the published
proceedings available during the conference try to send the
papers by the beginning of November.
CONFERENCE VENUE
The conference will take place in the University of Vienna (Juridicum -
Law Faculty building) in the city centre.
CONFERENCE LANGUAGE
The conference language willl be English.
PARTICIPATION
If you are interested in participation or to keep informed on the further
development contact the
Austrian Computer Society (OCG) KnowRight 2006
Wollzeile 1-3
A-1010 Vienna
E-Mail: KR06(a)ocg.at
Phone: +43 1 512 02 35, Fax: +43 1 512 02 35 9
or visit the conference webpages:
http://KnowRight06.ocg.at (or http://www.univie.ac.at/RI/IRIS2006/ )
REGISTRATION AND PROCEEDINGS
Authors should have registered by 10 Jan. 2006.
Participation including conference proceedings and social event:
EUR 70,--
The proceedings will be published by the Austrian Computer Society
and will appear in the books@ocg series.
Ec wrote:
>daniwo59 at aol.com wrote:
>>Although I have not been following this discussion, I was asked this evening
>>to grant 5 arbitrators on the English Wikipedia CheckUser powers.
>Are that many really needed?
Six would be nice, yes please, kthx.
Is this now going to be held up by another subgroup wanting to
re-committee the entire issue from top to bottom? I'd hope not.
- d.
Hi, this is something I asked on irc in #wikimedia earlier today, so
apologies to those of you who have already read this.
On projects like Wikinews which do not use the GFDL, Mediawiki Help
pages are still copied from Meta to the Help: namespace as an aid to
editors. However, I noticed that for these pages, (for instance,
<http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Help:Diff>), the only copyright notice is
the Wikinews default on the bottom of the page: "All content created
after September 25, 2005 is available under the terms of the Creative
Commons Attribution 2.5 License unless otherwise specified." Of
course, at the top of the same page, it is acknowledged that the text
is copied from <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Diff>, which, like
all pages on Meta, carries the legend "Content is available under GNU
Free Documentation License."
My question is, is the Wikinews page kosher with the GFDL? If so,
why? If not, what specifically must be done to make it compliant?
As I first started poking around these pages on behalf of a non-WMF
MediaWiki instance that would also like to mirror Help pages from Meta
locally, I would appreciate it if the general case of a non-GFDL wiki
using GFDL help pages could be addressed, and not just the particular
instance of Wikinews. Since we're brand-new and haven't chosen a
license yet, this will influence our direction in coming to a decision
there.
Many thanks for your time,
--Michael Noda
--- Tim Starling <t.starling(a)physics.unimelb.edu.au> wrote:
> ...
> The only question in my mind is the domain: should this be under
> eb1911.wikipedia.org? We could make it visually distinct, to avoid
> confusion with Wikipedia itself. Or would eb1911.wikimedia.org be
> better? Or eb1911.wikisource.org?
It absolutely should *not* be on a Wikipedia subdomain. Wikisource is
the place for this.
-- mav
This is exactly right. An encyclopedia from 1911 is a primary source of
historical interest; it's data, not metadata. If it goes anywhere, it's
Wikisource.
--Marshall Poe
__________________________________
Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
_______________________________________________
foundation-l mailing list
foundation-l(a)wikimedia.org
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Hello
Although I have not been following this discussion, I was asked this evening
to grant 5 arbitrators on the English Wikipedia CheckUser powers.
While the request was made, I think it is sage for us to let it sit there
for some time to see if there are any valid protests to giving it to these
individuals. Usually, steward requests can remain for several days until someone
acts upon them, and I don't see why this should be any different.
I also wonder whether they should be given the power on a permanent or a
need-to-know basis. That is, should they always have this ability, or should
they only be given it when a case requires invesigation, and then have it
removed? Personally, I favor the latter option. I do not think anybody needs to be
able to do this in all instances.
I welcome comments.
Danny
Michael Snow wrote:
> At the time of the Arbitration Committee election, the number of
> ballots cast on the English Wikipedia was about the same as several
> cities with populations ranging roughly from 3,000-6,000 people. The
> upper end of this range is quite close to the number of people who
> edited five times or more last December, according to Erik Zachte's
> statistical reports. So it seems this may be the number that is
> closest to a real-world population for our community. Since those
> statistics have just been updated (thanks, Erik) we can see that the
> English Wikipedia is now nearly equivalent to a town of 15,000 people.
Or, as another way to look at it, consider a similar-sized university.
Considering the heavy turnover in population, and the way in which many
people tend to spend time focusing on particular intellectual interests
more than the wider community, this seems like an especially apt comparison.
With a "population" of 15,000, the English Wikipedia is thus comparable
to a medium-sized university. The Wikimedia projects overall are
probably the equivalent of one of the larger universities.
--Michael Snow
For those who don't know, the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica is a famous
public domain encyclopedia, advertised as the "sum of all human
knowledge" in 1911.
I recently (today) acquired a DVD containing scans of every page of the
1911 Britannica, along with index files for it all, organized by letter
and page number. I've already talked with avar, TimStarling, and brion
on IRC, and TimStarling specifically asked me to tell you all that he is
"confident that the server requirements will be minimal." They would set
up a domain name, generate some web pages automatically using the index
files, and host the entire set of 29,700 files totaling about 4 GB.
One more thing, these are black and white TIFs, and there is discussion
about whether they should be mass converted to PNGs to be easily viewable.
brian0918(a)gmail.com