Hi Pascal, all,
this is being discussed here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cyberpower678 THe last response was
June 16, and it seems to focus on geo-blocking as the cause for
blacklisting (in case anyone feels called to help out the developer).
This bot performs incredible work and I hope it gets fixed soon!
Best,
Lodewijk
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 5:04 AM Pascal Martin <pmartin(a)linterweb.fr> wrote:
> HI,
>
> My native language is French, automatic translation into English.
> This message follows the numerous detection of false 404 links by the
> Internet Archive robot because it is blacklisted on a lot of servers. Small
> details concerning the archiving service of Wikiwix (
> https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_kroeg#Internet_Archive_Bot )
> It is based solely on this Javascript to be implemented since 2008 in
> French Wikipedia:
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-ArchiveLinks.js
> The advantage of this solution makes it possible to add other archiving
> sources, and does not modify the content of Wikipedia articles.
> New links are detected by 3 different means:
> • Annual recovery: https://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html,
> • Recovery on IRC and on the WEB of Recents Changes.
> And we also recommend clicking on the archive link as soon as the source
> is added by a contributor, this immediately generates storage of the link
> and allows you to test the rendering of the archived page.
> In addition to fighting 404 errors, this solution also offers the
> advantage of protecting against changes in content that may appear in the
> pages to be archived.
> Wikiwix strictly respects copyright, archiving is only done with the
> author's approval using the noarchive tag.
> Since 2015, I have been alerting about the deployment of the IA robot:
> 2015:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2015/Bots_and_gad…:
> the bot solution with modification of the template cache is currently
> exclusive to WayBackMachine, 2017:
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_user:Pmartin#I_left_you_a_message! :
> attempted collaboration abort by the bot trainer and bot stopped following
> numerous false detections on page 404.
> The role of IABOT is to detect the links present in Wikipedia which are in
> errors 404, to find an archive in priority on the WayBack Machine, and to
> modify the articles to replace the dead link there.
> This process is not good because IABOT only allows one archive url to be
> stored on all the languages, which greatly favors the Wayback Machine, to
> the detriment of the different versions of the page. While the template
> should link to a page that would list all of the possible archives for a
> 404 page.
> A week has been planned for the end of July 2020 to resolve the few
> stabilization problems that Wikiwix currently encounters, linked to the new
> solution which consumes only 30 euros of electricity per month, we can also
> support this week for a deployment of the solution on the NL part of
> Wikipedia.
>
> Could someone stop this bots, otherwise the false detection of links will
> become contagious for all projects?
>
> Pascal Martin
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Just curious, when will the next English Wikimedia Clinic be? I read "twice or three times" on its introduction page, I don't know if this Spanish section counts -- shall I expect the next Wikimedia clinic in August?
Lifeingenso
----
Dear Wikimedians,
The digest from Wikimedia Clinic[0] #004 has been published[1]. For your
convenience, here is a list of the topic titles discussed:
* Community friction in outreach on Turkish Wikipedia
* Announcement about Celtic Knot 2020 Conference (Virtual)
* Consultations between the WMF and the meta Community
* Translation of the {{Cite Q|...}} from English to Spanish?
* International conflict observatory
* Can you recall a great talk or presentation outside Wikimedia that really
inspired your Wikimedia work?
If any of this interests you, I encourage you to read the digest[1].
And here's a reminder that you are invited to attend Clinic #005, about to
take place at 17:30 UTC (in under three hours as of this posting), at the
Google Meet link below[2].
Also, we have just scheduled an experiment-within-an-experiment, a
Wikimedia Clinic *en espanol*, for July 16th at 18:00 UTC. That call will
take place mostly in Spanish. Everyone is welcome. See the main meta
page[0] for the link.
Cheers,
A.
[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Clinics/004
[2] https://meet.google.com/eqo-qokn-mwj
Asaf Bartov (he/him/his)
Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities
Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
https://donate.wikimedia.org
Some quick non-answer (better knows as !answers):
1. what are OTRS' rules and policies?
I’m unable to answer this due to the Confidentiality Agreement all OTRS agents sign. <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/L45> Any and all information on the OTRS wiki is private. OTRS wiki is used as a private workspace restricted to Wikimedia Foundation staff, chapter representatives, and Volunteer Response Team members, and is is strictly confidential.
2. where are those rules and policies documented, and why are they not public?
All rules and policies not stored on a local wiki (Commons, enwp, etc.) or Meta are stored on the OTRS wiki <http://otrs-wiki.wikimedia.org>. Why, if any rules or policies posted on OTRS wiki, are not public, I’m unable to answer this due to the Confidentiality Agreement all OTRS agents sign.
3. where are those rules and policies discussed and decided?
If not discussed publicly on a local wiki (Commons, enwp, etc.) or Meta, they can be discussed on e.g. the Café on the OTRS wiki <http://otrs-wiki.wikimedia.org> or on the mailing list. Or, I guess, by ”decree" by WMF.
4. what is the process for getting those rules and policies changed (or reworded for clarity)?
I’m unable to answer this due to the Confidentiality Agreement all OTRS agents sign.
5. how is OTRS overseen, and who by?
OTRS has 9 ”OTRS admins” <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS#OTRS_administrators>. I believe OTRS falls under the Communications committee’s purview, and perhaps T&S.
6. what is the approval process for an individual to become an OTRS agent?
Please see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/Volunteering.
7. what is the process for the community to remove an individual’s OTRS permissions, if they fail to uphold or abide by policy?
I do not know the answer to this question.
8. if an individual has been acting contrary to policy, what is the process for reviewing and if necessary overturning their past actions (including contacting and apologising to their correspondents)?
I’m unable to answer this due to the Confidentiality Agreement all OTRS agents sign.
9. which individuals can make someone an OTRS agent, or remove their permissions?
OTRS admins <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS#OTRS_administrators>.
10. how are the individuals in #9 appointed and overseen?
I do not know the answer to this question.
Jonatan Svensson Glad
Josve05a
Hello,
This is an announcement about a new installment of the Language Showcase, a
series of presentations about various aspects of language diversity and its
connection to Wikimedia Projects.
This next installment will deal with the translatewiki website, the
Translate extension in general, the latest technical updates in both of
them, and some upcoming projects.
This session is going to be broadcast over Zoom, and a recording will be
published for later viewing.
Please read below for the event details, including local time, joining
links and do let us know if you have any questions.
Thank you!
Amir
== Details ==
# Event: Language Showcase #6
# When: July 22, 2020 (Wednesday) at 13:00 UTC (check local time
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20200722T1300 )
# Where:
Join Zoom Meeting
https://wikimedia.zoom.us/j/99585961221
Meeting ID: 995 8596 1221
# Agenda:
The translatewiki website, the Translate extension in general, the latest
technical updates in both of them, and some upcoming projects.
Hello everyone,
As part of the Small wiki toolkits
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits> initiative, a Starter
kit <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits/Starter_kit> has
been developed for smaller language Wikimedia wikis! This Starter kit lists
resources, tools, and recommendations in technical areas (e.g., templates,
bots, gadgets, etc.) relevant to smaller wikis that are just getting
started. Small wiki contributors can use it to make their community's
workflow easier. You can now use and promote the Starter kit in your wiki
community, and start translating the landing page and its subpages in a
language you want.
If you have any questions, ideas for venues where it should be shared or
wiki pages where it should be linked, or any other suggestions for
improving it further, please share on this talk page
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Small_wiki_toolkits/Starter_kit>.
If you are interested in helping with the Small Wiki Toolkits initiative
and can offer help with running workshops, developing toolkits, or
exchanging problems and challenges in smaller wiki communities, add
yourself as a member here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits#Members
Cheers,
Srishti
*Srishti Sethi*
Developer Advocate
Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
This is an amazing resource. Excellent initiative. In addition to importing
etc localisation is also pretty important according to a project's need.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 11:48 PM Srishti Sethi <ssethi(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> As part of the Small wiki toolkits
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits> initiative, a Starter
> kit <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits/Starter_kit> has
> been developed for smaller language Wikimedia wikis! This Starter kit lists
> resources, tools, and recommendations in technical areas (e.g., templates,
> bots, gadgets, etc.) relevant to smaller wikis that are just getting
> started. Small wiki contributors can use it to make their community's
> workflow easier. You can now use and promote the Starter kit in your wiki
> community, and start translating the landing page and its subpages in a
> language you want.
>
> If you have any questions, ideas for venues where it should be shared or
> wiki pages where it should be linked, or any other suggestions for
> improving it further, please share on this talk page
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Small_wiki_toolkits/Starter_kit>.
>
> If you are interested in helping with the Small Wiki Toolkits initiative
> and can offer help with running workshops, developing toolkits, or
> exchanging problems and challenges in smaller wiki communities, add
> yourself as a member here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits#Members
>
> Cheers,
> Srishti
>
> *Srishti Sethi*
> Developer Advocate
> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
>
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Hi folks,
Sorry for cross-posting, not sure which list is the best venue for my problem.
I have an issue with regards to the translation of the word
"attribution" in "Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike". For
reasons (explained in [1]) which are not interesting for Wikimedia,
the CC-sanctioned Romanian translation has changed from "distribuire"
to "partajare" in the translation for version 4.0 *only*.
This becomes a problem for multilingual wikis (mw, m, c), which use
meta-templates and MediaWiki messages to translate the {{cc-by-sa-*}}
templates. What would be the easiest way to solve the problem without
affecting other languages?
Thanks,
Strainu
[1] (in Romanian)
https://www.cyberculture.ro/2020/07/20/licente-creative-commons-versiunea-4…
Hello,
Today the Wikimedia Foundation would like to introduce a new community
blog. It's called "Diff" (diff.wikimedia.org) and is a blog by – and
for – the Wikimedia volunteer community to connect and share
learnings, stories, and ideas from across our movement. We'd like to
encourage you to learn more about Diff and how it can help you in
sharing and learning from your fellow Wikimedians.
Everyone is invited to contribute!
https://diff.wikimedia.org/2020/07/14/welcome-to-diff-a-community-blog-for-…
The name “Diff” is in reference to the wiki interface that displays
the difference between one version and another of a Wikipedia page. It
also reflects the “difference” our communities and movement make in
the world every day.
For some background, Diff builds on lessons and experiences from the
Wikimedia Blog, the Wikimedia Foundation News, and Wikimedia Space;
previous posts from these channels are archived on Diff. The channel
is primarily intended for community-authored posts, in which
volunteers can share their stories, learnings, and ideas with each
other.
Diff offers a simple and accessible editorial process, moderated by
Foundation communications staff and open to volunteers, to encourage
participation from all — especially emerging and under-represented
communities. Additionally, content on Diff can be written and
translated into languages to reach a wide audience. Diff also has a
code of conduct and comments can be flagged and moderated.
Still curious to learn more?
https://diff.wikimedia.org/2020/07/14/welcome-to-diff-a-community-blog-for-…
Yours,
Chris Koerner (he/him)
Community Relations Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation
I have documenten my Wiki related activities for fifteen years on my blog
[1]. I write argued opinions centred around my experiences. I always invite
people to consider the arguments and argue their point.
At this point I find the Wikimedia Foundation increasingly intolerant of
considered opinions. I made the case for other projects, considered
remedies like bonuses for senior management for growth in other projects,
and I do consider it a bias when everything is centred around Wikipedia and
the English Wikipedia at that.
I find that I am censured when I want to post to this Facebook group and I
am censured when I post on Wikimedia-l. Read what I write, my arguments are
to make our movement a better place. Look up what I do and have done, with
2,770,630 edits I have been deeply involved in our projects. I am censured
because it is not ok for me to speak freely and say that our approach is
one of bias, a bias that is detrimental to our mission.
Thanks,
GerardM
PS it will be a relief when I find this posted on the mailinglist and when
my latest blogpost gets attention on Facebook
[1] https://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/
Speaking of privacy policies, there are still way more than a hundred
accounts which have access to readers' IP addresses:
https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet/blob/be74f7d1e9fd5ad234c1049a66ddb8c36b…
Given that the European Court of Justice found that the EU-US Privacy
Shield agreement fails to protect Europeans' rights to data privacy, can we
please stop logging readers' IP addresses?
Best regards,
Jim