Hi everyone!
I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized
[1] the Wikimedia Community of Tatar Language User Group [2] as a Wikimedia
User Group. The group aims to develop Wikipedia in Tatar into most popular
content portal of the Tatar-language internet; to grow other Wikimedia
projects in the Tatar language; and to teach new generations of
Tatar-language Wikimedians, developing their skills through sharing
experiences.
Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
Regards,
Kirill Lokshin
Chair, Affiliations Committee
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognit…
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_of_Tatar_language_User_…
I have written a long text today (posted in my FB) which the readers of
this mailing list might find interesting. I copy it below. I understand
that it is very easy to critisize me for side issues, but if you want to
comment/reply I would appreciate if you address the main issue. The target
audience I was thinking about was general (not necessarily
Wikimedia-oriented), and for the readers from this mailing list the first
several paragraphs can sound trivial (or even trivial and wrong). I
apologize in advance.
Cheers
Yaroslav
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I currently have a bit of time and can write on the future of Wikipedia.
Similarly to much of what I write it is probably going to be useless, but
someone may find it interesting. For simplicity, I will be explicitly
talking about the English Wikipedia (referring to it as Wikipedia). I am
active in other projects as well, and some of them have similar issues, but
there are typically many other things going on there which make the picture
more complicated.
Let us first look at the current situation. Wikipedia exists since 2001,
and in a couple of weeks will turn 18. Currently, it has 5.77 million
articles. I often hear an opinion that all important articles have already
been created. This is incorrect, and I am often the first person to point
out that this is not correct. For example, today I created an article on an
urban locality in Russia with the population of 15 thousands. Many articles
are indeed too short, badly written, or suffer from other issues, and they
need to be improved. There are new topics which appear on a regular basis:
new music performers, new winners of sports competitions or prizes, and so
on. As any Web 2.0 project, Wikipedia requires a regular cleanup, since
there are many people happy to vandalize the 5th website in the world in
terms of the number of views. However, as a general guideline, it is not so
much incorrect to state that all important things in Wikipedia have been
already written. Indeed, if someone looks for information in Wikipedia -
or, more precisely, uses search engines and gets Wikipedia as the first hit
— they are likely to find what they need with more than 99% chance.
In this sense, Wikipedia now is very different from Wikipedia in 2008 or
Wikipedia in 2004. Ten and especially fifteen years ago, everybody could
contribute something important. For example, the article on the 1951 film
"A Streetcar Named Desire", which won four Academy Awards, was started in
2005, as well as an article on Cy Twombly, at the time probably the most
famous living artist. This is not possible anymore. This is why the number
of active editors is currently dropping - to contribute to the content in a
meaningful way, one now has to be an advanced amateur - to master some
field of knowledge much better than most others do. Or one can be a
professional - but there are very few professionals contributing to
Wikipedia in their fields, and there are very few articles written at a
professional level. Attempts to attract professionals have been made for
many years, and, despite certain local success, generally failed. They have
been going now for long enough to assume they will never succeed on a large
scale. Wikipedia is written by advance amateurs for amateurs. However,
despite the decline in the number of editors, there are enough resources to
maintain and to expand the project. It does not mean there are no problems
- there are in fact many problems. One of the most commonly discussed one
is systemic bias - there is way more information on Wikipedia on subjects
pertaining to North America than to Africa, and if a topic is viewed on
differently in different countries, one can be sure that the American view
dominates. But it is usually thought - and I agree with this - that these
drawbacks are not crucial, and Wikipedia is atill a useful and sustainable
project. Wikipedia clearly has its ecosystem, there are no competitors to
talk about, and all attempts to fork it were unsuccessful. There is a
steady development, and everybody is happy.
Does this mean that everything is fine and we do not need to worry?, just
to wait until missing articles get written, or even to help this by writing
them ourselves?
Absolutely not. To understand this, we can look again at the editor base.
There are detailed studies, but, for a starter, it is a nightmare to edit
Wikipedia from a cell phone. It is possible but not much easier to edit it
from a tablet. The mobile version is different from a desktop one, and it
is not really optimized for editing. This is a known problem, but one
aspect of it is clear. Most Wikipedia editors actually own a desktop and a
laptop. This brings them into 18+ category. There are of course exceptions,
but the fact is that the editor base gets older, and this is a problem. The
problem is not so much at this point that we all die and there will be
nobody to edit Wikipedia. The problem is that the next generation (18-) has
very different ways of getting information. And I guess they are not
interested in editing Wikipedia, and they will not get interested when they
grow up - possibly beyond introducing minor corrections, which can be done
from a phone.
Traditionally, students were always among the core of the editors base.
They already have some knowledge and they still have time to edit. When
they graduate, find a job and start a family, they have way less time and
typically stop editing. The next group are retirees. Between students and
retirees, we have a tiny fraction of dedicated enthusiasts who are ready to
take time from work and family, but they are really not numerous. Well, and
very soon we are going to lose students as editors. And we should be happy
if we do not lose them as readers.
I am 51, and I do not know much about the 18- generation, but I know two
important things about them. They have a very short attention span and
difficulties to concentrate. And they get a graphical and visualized
information much more easier than texts. For example, my son is capable of
watching three or four movies per day, but he has difficulties to read 20
pages from a book.
Well, the first question is whether an encyclopedia is an appropriate / the
best format for them to get knowledge (as it is for us). I do not know the
answer. What I write below assumes that the answer is positive, otherwise
the rest of the text does not make sense.
The next question is what should be done. How Wikipedia should look like to
be accessible to this generation? The answer seems to be obvious. Articles
must be short and contain a lot of graphic information. May be they need to
be videoclips. Short clips. Or, at lest, they must contain clips, with more
voice and less letters. If one needs more detailed information or just
further information - one hops to the next article or watches the next clip.
This is a paradigm shift. Currently, the editors generally consider that it
is good to have long Wikipedia articles - because long means more complete.
Sometimes there are even proposals (fortunately isolated and without
followup) to delete all short articles even if they describe notable topics
and contain verified information. Clips are almost not in use. Of course
they still need to be made, but this is not such a big problem - there are
plenty of school students who have their own youtube channel, if they can
make clips, everybody can.
The most difficult question is how this can be realized. I believe it is
not possible to just transform Wikipedia like this - make articles shorter
and simpler and spit them. First, this might be good for the young
generation, but this is still not good for the 18+ generation. Second, such
reforms should be either be approved by Wikipedia community through
consensus, or be imposed by the Wikimedia Foundation who owns the project.
The likelihood of either is zero. Just to give one argument, the community
is, well, the community of editors, of the same 18+ people with laptops who
have no difficulties reading long texts.
I envision it differently. Ideally, we have the Wikipedia as it is now, but
on top of this, every article has a collection of shorter companion
articles, simple and a paragraph or two long, so that each of them can be
read in half a minute, They should not have excessive markup, references,
categories or anything else which can be found in the main article if
needed. References in Wikipedia are required not for the sake of having
references, but as a means to ensure that the information is verifiable -
and if the main article does it the companion articles do not need to. Some
of these companion articles can be in fact clips - there is a difficulty
that clips can not be edited collaboratively, but I am sure this one can be
solved. If anybody wants to solve it.
The status of what I have written above is science fiction. I am sure if I
come with this proposal to a village pump of Wikipedia, it will be dead
within a day. In addition, it requires some modifications of MediaWiki
which can only be done by the Foundation. And I am not really looking
forward for the Foundation implementing this either. I have a lot of
respect for some of the Foundation employees, but it has now grown up into
a big corporation now and behaves as a big corporation, where some people
care less about the product and more about other things, and some look at
Wikipedia editors, aka "unorganized volunteers", as some annoying
phenomenon, which they can tolerate but are not willing to listen to. My
forecast is pretty pessimistic. Unless a miracle happens (and I currently,
at least not from my perspective, do not see any reasons for a miracle to
happen), soon or late will realize this, It might be a startup company, or
a non-commercial. And Wikipedia will stay as it is, and, after the
standards change many times, it will not be readable / accessible to most
of internet users, and will slowly die. And the results of what were were
doing for 20 years will disappear. This is a usual development and happens
to almost every human activity. We know that only a few percents of pieces
of Ancient Greek and Roman literature survived until now.
Yaroslav Blanter, editor and administrator of the English Wikipedia, 125
000 edits.
Hi,
For four years now, since Wikimania 2014 in London, the chairpersons of the
recognized chapters have met as a group twice a year, during Wikimania and
the Wikimedia Conference (now the Wikimedia Summit), usually for 1 - 2
hours during one of the lunch breaks.
I started to arrange these meetings as an opportunity for the chairpersons
to meet, and the concept of these meetings at the beginning was to host
every time a different person from our movement.
Later on, Tim Moritz Hector (WMDE) and Frans Grijzenhout (WMNL) joined to
help me arrange and plan these meetings, and as result also from the
feedback of the other chairs, we changed the concept to discussions and
presentations format in order to speak about issues related to the
organizations we represent and our movement in general. We also created a
mailing list as a place to get updates but also to raise questions and
share information (such as questions related to the organization's
policies, ED, board issues and other).
About half a year ago, Frans and me thought we had to take these meetings
to a higher level, and, for the first time, we proposed to organize a two
days meeting, where we can have a dedicated time, without interruptions
(and lunch on our tables...) in order to focus on bigger issues.
We already have board trainings for new board members, but we don’t have
any program which supports the chairpersons as leaders of their boards and
their organizations. So we decided to focus on improving the interpersonal
skills and leadership competencies of chairpersons and give them other
tools to become better and more effective in their roles.
In order to achieve this, we decided to contract an experienced external
trainer & facilitator.
In the beginning, we planned to have this meeting with all the
chairpersons, from the big and from the small chapters. But as the WMF’s
grants program were temporarily not accepting new grants requests, we
weren't able to get support to finance the participation of the small
chapters which didn’t have the budget to cover the costs.
So in the end, we hold a smaller meeting a week ago (hosted by WMCZ in
Prague), with 17 chairpersons which could cover the travel and meeting
costs (with a small grant from the WMF to help to support part of the
facilitator's fee).
During the meeting (or you can also call it a retreat) we had workshops and
sessions to know each other better, to speak about effective and
accountable boards, team dynamics, failures (and how to continue) and work
on interpersonal skills and more.
We decided to share with you the results and feedback we received, which
may be used by other groups or similar events:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MOBru_m1wQu-IESItb5IWjWp9mVVdRuG/view?usp=…
You can read more about the meeting on Meta:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate_Chairpersons_meeting_November_24_…
And also the notes of some of the session:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate_Chairpersons_meeting_Novembe…
We felt this information will be valuable to share with the rest of the
movement.
Yours,
Itzik, Frans, and Vojtěch (WMCZ)
*Itzik Edri*
Chairperson
itzik(a)wikimedia.org.il
+972-54-5878078
(Hello, I am writing first in Spanish and then in English. Pido disculpas
por cualquier error en la español.)
Hola, espero que todos los que celebran los días festivos en esta época del
año disfruten de su tiempo. Encontré algunos videos que pensé que a
Wikimedians les gustaría. Supongo que la gente tendrá una variedad de
preferencias por la música, por lo que es posible que te gusten algunas de
estas actuaciones más que otras.
Esta es una actuación "flashmob" en Japón de la Sinfonía número 9 de
Beethoven. 2018 es el centenario de la primera actuación de esta sinfonía
en Asia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lNaajK3Scc
Esta es la actuación del Coro Juvenil de Ciudad del Cabo en la ceremonia de
clausura de Wikimania 2018, que si comprendo correctamente incluye
canciones en zulú y hebreo. Gracias a Andrew Lih por la grabación.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI5NxXPm5Jw
Esta es una actuación en 2018 de la pieza "Una Voz " de la Banda de la
Fuerza Aérea de los Estados Unidos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41ctPLDHvU
Finalmente, pensé que debería incluir un rendimiento que los ingenieros
puedan pensar que es especialmente divertido, así que aquí hay un
rendimiento inteligente de la pieza "Vi Tres Naves". Pido disculpas por el
anuncio al final de la grabación.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2IBGlDJ3lg
Los mejores deseos,
Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Hello, I hope that everyone who celebrates holidays at this time of year is
enjoying their time. I found a few videos that I thought that Wikimedians
might like. My guess is that people will have a variety of preferences for
music, so you may like some of these performances more than others.
This is a "flash mob" performance in Japan of Beethoven's Symphony Number
9. 2018 is the 100th anniversary of this symphony's first performance in
Asia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lNaajK3Scc
This is the performance of the Cape Town Youth Choir at the closing
ceremony of Wikimania 2018, which if I understand correctly includes songs
in Zulu and Hebrew. Thanks to Andrew Lih for the recording.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI5NxXPm5Jw
This is a 2018 performance of the piece "One Voice" by the United States
Air Force Band. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41ctPLDHvU
Finally, I thought that I should include a performance that engineers might
think is especially fun, so here is a clever performance of the piece "I
Saw Three Ships". I apologize for the advertisement at the end of the
recording. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2IBGlDJ3lg
Best wishes,
Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
Hello Everyone!
Just wanted to provide a couple of quick fundraising updates:
**End of year downtime and New Year**
>From today, we are bringing banners down across the projects for the next
week as we did last year.
As I mentioned in my December 10th update, you may have noticed that we
have been running small banners on the Wikipedia Portal site for this first
time ever this year. These will stay up until December 31st. Over this
period we will also be experimenting with a small highlight on the sidebar
donate link, revisiting something we haven’t explored for a while. We
learned during last year’s campaign that readers are looking for ways to
donate to Wikipedia the week between Christmas and New Years. We hope that
the improved design that we are testing will make it easier for those
readers to navigate the site to find the right landing page.
We'll be doing a final push over 30-31st January and will be running a
thank you banner campaign through the beginning of January.
**Mobile Banner Changes**
The banner team continued working on changes to our our mobile large
banners based on the community feedback we received; Here is a quick update
on our progress
--- Reducing the length of the banner - After about 2 weeks of almost
continuous testing we’ve now managed to reduce the size of the mobile
banner between 30-35% on most devices with only a marginal hit in terms of
effectiveness.
--- Making it clearer to users that they are able to SKIP the banner -
We’ve made style and wording tweaks to users but in addition to this we’ve
followed this up with some user testing and we will be looking at how we
can make further improvements in this area.
Thank you all and Happy Holidays!
--
Seddon
*Community and Audience Engagement Associate*
*Advancement (Fundraising), Wikimedia Foundation*
Hi folks!
I announce that I, Michal Maúšov (KuboF Hromoslav), have today the December
20 2018 resigned from the position of chair of WUG Wikimedians of Slovakia.
The reason is my will to focus more on the WUG Esperanto and Free Knowledge
and to work more effectively. More details and some historic background is
(in Slovak) on the blog of Wikimedians of Slovakia [1].
The rest of the board is now:
- Radoslava Semanová (vice-chair)
- Matej Grochal (member of the board)
The next opportunity to elect someone to the board is going to be on the
next Generally Assembly, which is going to happen in the first 3 months of
2019.
Good luck, and thanks for all the fish!
[1]
https://wikimedia.sk/2018/demisia-spoluzakladatela-predsedu-michal-matusov-…
Michal Matúšov (User:KuboF Hromoslav)
Wikimedians of Slovakia
co-founder, former chair
Wikimedia Sverige is proud to be the recipient of $55,000 in support from
the grant-giving organization Kulturbryggan (Culture Bridge) for a project
investigating how to best include audio files on Wikimedia Commons.
Our work will focus on batch uploading audio files onto Wikimedia Commons
(with a focus on music recordings). In preparations for this, we will
investigate how the metadata can be included in a way that is best suited
for Structured Data once it gets deployed. This is a pilot project where we
aim to discuss with the community what to include and what to exclude. The
discussions and the requests from the community will form our planning
around future work with uploading audio files onto Wikimedia Commons. We
look forward working with the community and with the Structured Data team
at Wikimedia Foundation on how metadata about audio files can be included
in a well-structured and useful way.
This project will connect very closely to the FindingGLAMs project[1] and
will form one of the case studies included in it. In the case study we will
provide guidance for other GLAMs and Wikimedia affiliates who want to
upload audio files in the future.
The project also connects closely to Wikimedia Sverige’s planned project
aimed at building tools to collect speech recordings. The recordings,
illustrating how words are pronounced etc., will then be used to improve
the quality of Wikispeech[2], a text-to-speech (TTS) system that converts
written text into speech. We want to see what type of speech recordings can
and should be stored on Wikimedia Commons and what kind of metadata should
be included there; this project will help us clarify the needs.
Please contact John Andersson (john.andersson(a)wikimedia.se) if you have any
questions.
As always, you can find the full application available on our wiki (in
Swedish).[3]
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FindingGLAMs
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikispeech
[3]
https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:Fri_musik_p%C3%A5_Wikipedia_2019/Ans%…
Best,
John
- - - -
John Andersson
Executive Director
Wikimedia Sverige
Phone: +46(0)73-3965189
Email: john.andersson(a)wikimedia.se
Visiting address: Goto10, Hammarby Kaj 10D, 120 32 Stockholm
Thank you all for your kind words and excitement!
@Gnangarra, Ben:
Indeed one of the exciting possibilities working with audio is oral
histories. That our team now will be able to think, discuss and prepare for how
audio files best can be included on the Wikimedia projects should give us
relevant insights for future work.
I am also very much looking forward to see how the *Wikipeech Speech Data
Collector* (WSDC) tools might contribute to the collection of oral
histories.[1]
If funded we aim for WSDC to have a set of tools to crowdsource CC0
licensed speech data for the Wikimedia platforms and to become a service to
the entire FOSS community and to many others working with accessibility
online. Over time WSDC should allow us to add more languages to Wikispeech
and improve diversity on all platforms using MediaWiki. The same WSDC tools
could potentially also be useful for collecting, annotating and
disseminating e.g. oral histories or historical recordings.
To develop WSDC in 2019-2021 Wikimedia Sverige, together with a large
number of GLAM and university partners (with wonderful support from our
friends at Wikimedia Deutschland[2]), have recently sent in a major grant
application of 440,000 USD. We should get an answer about the funding in
February next year. (We are now among the last teams competing for the
funds and it looks very promising.) Please send positive thoughts!
[1] For the 75 page application detailing the project, see here (in
Swedish): https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:Wikispeech_2019/Ansökan
[2] WMDE's and WMSE's tech teams will share knowledge and insights
ongoingly as part of the project - I am very excited about more
inter-affiliate cooperation.
Kind regards and happy holidays,
John
PS. If funded we will be looking to hire at least one new developer with
expertise in speech data or other relevant skills. Drop me an email if you
are interested or if you know some great person.
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>> As some who is working with oral histories this sounds interesting,
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>> On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 00:08, Sailesh Patnaik <
>> sailesh.patnaik007(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Congratulations, John!
>> > It's really nice to see that Wikimedia Sweden is bringing such amazing
>> > initiatives to the movement.
>> >
>> > Regards!
>> >
>> > *Sailesh Patnaik *"*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ**"*
>> > *Community Advocate, The Centre for Internet and Society*
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>> > *Twitter*: @saileshpat
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:09 PM John Andersson <
>> > john.andersson(a)wikimedia.se> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wikimedia Sverige is proud to be the recipient of $55,000 in support
>> from
>> >> the grant-giving organization Kulturbryggan (Culture Bridge) for a
>> project
>> >> investigating how to best include audio files on Wikimedia Commons.
>> >>
>> >> Our work will focus on batch uploading audio files onto Wikimedia
>> Commons
>> >> (with a focus on music recordings). In preparations for this, we will
>> >> investigate how the metadata can be included in a way that is best
>> suited
>> >> for Structured Data once it gets deployed. This is a pilot project
>> where
>> >> we
>> >> aim to discuss with the community what to include and what to exclude.
>> The
>> >> discussions and the requests from the community will form our planning
>> >> around future work with uploading audio files onto Wikimedia Commons.
>> We
>> >> look forward working with the community and with the Structured Data
>> team
>> >> at Wikimedia Foundation on how metadata about audio files can be
>> included
>> >> in a well-structured and useful way.
>> >>
>> >> This project will connect very closely to the FindingGLAMs project[1]
>> and
>> >> will form one of the case studies included in it. In the case study we
>> >> will
>> >> provide guidance for other GLAMs and Wikimedia affiliates who want to
>> >> upload audio files in the future.
>> >>
>> >> The project also connects closely to Wikimedia Sverige’s planned
>> project
>> >> aimed at building tools to collect speech recordings. The recordings,
>> >> illustrating how words are pronounced etc., will then be used to
>> improve
>> >> the quality of Wikispeech[2], a text-to-speech (TTS) system that
>> converts
>> >> written text into speech. We want to see what type of speech recordings
>> >> can
>> >> and should be stored on Wikimedia Commons and what kind of metadata
>> should
>> >> be included there; this project will help us clarify the needs.
>> >>
>> >> Please contact John Andersson (john.andersson(a)wikimedia.se) if you
>> have
>> >> any
>> >> questions.
>> >>
>> >> As always, you can find the full application available on our wiki (in
>> >> Swedish).[3]
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FindingGLAMs
>> >>
>> >> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikispeech
>> >>
>> >> [3]
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:Fri_musik_p%C3%A5_Wikipedia_2019/Ans%…
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> - - - -
>> >>
>> >> John Andersson
>> >>
>> >> Executive Director
>> >>
>> >> Wikimedia Sverige
>> >>
>> >> Phone: +46(0)73-3965189
>> >>
>> >> Email: john.andersson(a)wikimedia.se
>> >>
>> >> Visiting address: Goto10, Hammarby Kaj 10D, 120 32 Stockholm
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>> here
>> <
>> https://uwap.uwa.edu.au/products/never-again-reflections-on-environmental-r…
>> >
>> .
>>