So sorry to hear the news. I've had to good fortune to meet him at several
Wiki-events.
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> it is sad to know about this, May God bless his soul, Rest in peace Kevin
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> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 12:05 PM, bobby shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com>
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> > My condolences to his family.
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> > On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:32 AM, Tito Dutta <trulytito(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Very sad news. :(
> > >
> > > On 30 July 2016 at 02:55, Ed Erhart <the.ed17(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I regret to inform everyone that Kevin Gorman, a Wikipedian who was
> the
> > > > first Wikipedian-in-residence at a US university or college, has
> passed
> > > > away. There is a memorial page on Facebook, and editors are leaving
> > > > condolences on his English Wikipedia talk page.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.facebook.com/bombus.memoriam/
> > > >
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kevin_Gorman
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > --Ed
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> From: Shlomi Fish <shlomif(a)shlomifish.org>
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> > I regret to inform everyone that Kevin Gorman, a Wikipedian who was the
> > first Wikipedian-in-residence at a US university or college, has passed
> > away. There is a memorial page on Facebook, and editors are leaving
> > condolences on his English Wikipedia talk page.
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/bombus.memoriam/
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> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kevin_Gorman
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Thanks for the mail, Nicole, and Teele for the post. Two points:
a) It is great to see this kind of chapter interchanges, and I hope to
see more of it. It would be great if more chapters can offer such
opportunities.
b) It is great to see how a generation of young people grows in/into
the Wikimedia movement, who do internships, write their BA thesis on a
Wikimedia topic or travel to conventions. When I started with
Wikipedia, I was already 30, way over the age of secondary
socialisation.
Kind regards
Ziko
2016-07-29 12:30 GMT+02:00 Nicole Ebber <nicole.ebber(a)wikimedia.de>:
> Hi all,
>
> Following up on our Wikimedia Conference report 2016[1], we have now
> published more information about our “Visiting Wikimedian” initiative
> that we kicked-off with Teele Vaalma from Wikimedia Eesti this year.
> This initiative aims to transfer practical knowledge from the German
> chapter to other Wikimedia movement affiliates and provides us with an
> outside view.
>
> Teele wrote a blog post on the movement blog, describing her time in
> Berlin and her work to support us in organising the conference. It’s
> really worth a read, as she provides insights into cross chapter
> exchange and knowledge transfer.[2]
>
> We have also set up a page (on Meta!) that describes the pilot that we
> started this year. We would like to continue this for the Wikimedia
> Conference 2017 and now start looking for the next Visiting
> Wikimedian.[3] We are especially looking for a person who can apply
> the knowledge to an upcoming event, for example if the affiliate is
> hosting a regional or international conference. If you are interested
> in becoming a Visiting Wikimedian, please reach out to me directly
> until mid September.
>
> A special thanks goes out to Wikimedia Eesti for being so supportive
> of the idea and to Teele for doing such an awesome job!
>
> Cheers,
> Nicole
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2016/Report
> [2] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/07/28/digest-estonia-germany-wikimedia-conf…
> [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Visiting_Wikimedian
>
> --
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First, some context:
I was in Philadelphia for the Democratic National Convention earlier
this week, where I had been invited to speak (in a small side event)
about connectivity and global development. I spoke about our work in
the languages of the developing world, and made a point to say that bad
laws in the developed world which might hurt our work can be damaging
for the development of the Internet in the rest of the world and urged
lawmakers to not just think of various Internet legal questions as being
"Silicon Valley versus Hollywood" but to understand that they impact how
our volunteer community and many other ordinary people online.
Second, the story:
The main conference was held in the [[Wells Fargo Center
(Philadelphia)]], an indoor arena where basketball and hockey teams play
normally.
A journalist friend said to me that he "finally found something that
Wikipedia doesn't have" and he was surprised. What was that, I said?
"The history of Wells Fargo". What?!! Really?!! That seemed impossible
to me. He said we have an article about Wells Fargo that seems to be
mostly about the contemporary bank, and when you search for Wells Fargo
history there's also an article about the Wells Fargo History Museum.
I popped on my phone and used my own personal preferred method of
finding things in Wikipedia: Google. I typed in "Wells Fargo history"
and sure enough, the first two links are history pages from their
official websites and the third link is Wikipedia - a normal state of
affairs. He started to apologize for raising a false alarm
I asked him for more details on exactly how he searched, and explained
that I regard it to be very sad if some volunteers spend hundreds of
hours working on an article, painstakingly going over tons of details in
an effort to get it right, and then someone couldn't find it.
Here's what he did - and I replicated the steps and all was clear.
Go to http://www.wikipedia.org/
Make sure the dropdown in the search box is set to 'EN' - which it would
have been for him.
Start typing 'Wells Fargo history' and watch as the dropdown selections
narrow. You'll have the experience that he had - you'll see the bank
article prominently featured and then various buildings (they have a
habit of sponsoring sports arenas in various US cities) and finally as
you start typing history it focuses in on the History Museum.
If you don't choose any of those, then hit enter, you'll get to the
search results page. This is the one with a huge box of options at the
top (which will be confusing and frightening to people who aren't
already wikipedians) and then by my count the desired article is 13th on
the page: [[History of Wells Fargo]].
Now, I strongly suspect this could be fixed by making a redirect from
[[Wells Fargo history]] to [[History of Wells Fargo]].
Or a more serious fix could be had if the search engine understood that
very very often in English [[X of Y]] can be written [[Y X]]. ([[List
of French monarchs]] becomes [[French monarchs list]], see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=french+monarchs+list
where the desired article is in 10th place.
But my point is not to argue for any specific fix. My point is to
illustrate that there is a real problem with search, that it is
impacting users, and that we should invest in fixing it.
--Jimbo
Thanks Nicole and everyone at WMDE for a very thorough report.
One question - you say that 2017 funding for Wikidata has not been agreed
with WMF. I wondered if anyone could let us know what's happening with this
- is there a conversation progressing about it?
Many thanks,
Chris
On 27 Jul 2016 13:54, "Nicole Ebber" <nicole.ebber(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We have published our APG Progress Report. It covers the first six
> months of 2016, with a special focus on Wikidata and
> community-oriented Software Development. It also covers our non-APG
> funded activities such as the Attribution Generator, Local Hubs for
> Volunteers and our mapping OER project.
>
> True to our approach of being a learning partner for the movement, we
> have added two sections with shared learnings at the bottom of each
> section.
>
> Check it out, it's beautiful!
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2015-2016_round1/Wikim…
>
> Happy reading,
> Nicole
>
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Janet Renteria <jrenteria(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
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> The next WMF metrics and activities meeting will take place on Thursday,
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There has been recent discussion about Wikimedia-l communications. I think
that there are varying understandings that would benefit from discussion in
a distinct thread.
The information page for Wikimedia-l says:
*"Discussion list for the Wikimedia community and the larger network of
organizations (Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org/>,
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* This is a high traffic mailing list. The list is moderated, and is
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topic. There is a soft post limit of 30 posts per individual/month."*
I think some of the mixed expectations are coming from a few places, which
I'd like to try to address. I want to emphasize that this is my perspective
only, and others may wish to share varying perspectives.
1. I'm happy to hear that Board members want to be responsive to community
questions and comments. However, my impression is that a few Board members
are feeling obligated to check the list constantly. I feel that that's
unnecessary. Checking the list twice a week is probably fine, and I'm
grateful for the responsiveness of Board members to community input.
2. Likewise, WMF staff don't need to feel obligated to check the list on a
daily basis, let alone be constantly reading every email that comes across
the list. Many staff don't need to subscribe to the list at all. For most
comments or questions that are directed to staff, I think that a response
within 7 days should be the expectation.
3. I encouraged Lila, and would still encourage WMF, to appoint an employee
to be responsible for ensuring that questions and comments from the many
community channels are referred to appropriate places in WMF. This would
reduce the burden on WMF staff to monitor multiple channels. Multiple
channels are inevitable; Wikimedia-l happens to be one of the higher
traffic channels. My impression is that the community product liaisons
already do this kind of work for technical questions and comments, and I
think that a similar arrangement should be made for questions and comments
about other subjects.
4. I share the concern that low-volume individuals may feel too intimidated
to post on the mailing list, and I would welcome ideas about how to
encourage them to speak up more often with well-intentioned questions and
comments.
5. I would encourage us to experiment with Discourse (
https://www.discourse.org/faq/) to see if it will provide a platform that
is easier to use than our current mailing list setup. Perhaps we could set
up a test instance and move a small number of lists there, and evaluate how
those go. If the tests go well then we could consider moving progressively
higher traffic mailing lists to Discourse.
I'd welcome hearing from other people about these points. This is a public
list that's intended for high traffic, and I hope that anyone with a
well-intentioned comment or question will feel that it's okay to speak up
with their perspectives.
Thanks,
Pine (writing in personal capacity only)
Dear all,
As Christophe mentioned, BGC has discussed Board composition issue and
decided that the best way is to wait for the results of the governance
review.
It was mentioned in the minutes, by the way [1]
If you have relevant arguments and think that it would make sense for other
people to be aware of these arguments, please, *discuss them on Meta*.
Mailing lists are not very useful for things like that.
There is a talk page for this [2]
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Commi…
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Boar…
Best regards,
antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:22 AM, WereSpielChequers <
werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Pine has a point. We all know that the founder seat will go eventually.
> Whether it goes on the death or incapacity of the founder or earlier is a
> valid question for the board and the community. I'm not convinced that an
> elections committee should be deciding which posts to elect, and even if
> such governance issues do fall into its remit they should probably focus on
> how to elect first. So I'd say this should be a board decision.
>
> As for the arguments to retain a founder seat for the next few decades, I
> suggest that those who favour such a position try to couch their arguments
> in terms of institutional knowledge, the value of an element of continuity
> and the positives for the community to still retain such a link with our
> founder. Then hope that the incidents of a few months ago fade in memory
> and are not repeated. There is a case to be made for a founder seat, but as
> with any argument in this community there are ways to argue respectfully
> and effectively, and there are arguments that undermine your cause and
> weaken your reputation.
>
>
> WereSpielChequers
>
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> > Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 21:53:59 -0700
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> > I asked a question earlier in this thread which seems to have been
> > overlooked. Is the BGC (or the Board as a whole) considering whether the
> > Founder's seat will become an elected seat in the forseeable future?
> >
> > Pine
> >
> > On Jul 20, 2016 21:20, "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
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I find Trillium's denied e-mail to be off-topic but hardly so objectionable
that a moderator reviewing it should deny it. If it is the case that a
moderator suggested minor stylistic changes (couple days to couple of
days), that seems a bit distasteful and probably not what list members
would imagine a moderator doing.
Delays in processing moderated posts causing them to become untimely is
something that I think is unavoidable, and the solution of course is to not
cause yourself to be put on moderation. The mods are volunteers and have
historically hardly been careless about placing people on moderation willy
nilly.
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 4:56 AM, Trillium Corsage <trillium2014(a)yandex.com>
wrote:
> I've been placed in "moderate" status on this list (I criticize the reason
> but it would be a distraction to get into that right now). It's often
> frustrating to receive the "rejected" notice which comes often without
> explanation at all, and sometimes with unexplained explanation if you'll
> tolerate the phrase i.e. "a moderator has found your email would not be
> helpful" (why?).
>
> Once the moderators took like three days to disapprove my email, and
> actually gave the reason that "the conversation has now moved on from that
> point."
>
> Let me discuss the most recent example from last week which was
> frustrating to me. For the sake of discussion I'll copy-paste my email in
> question (it's at least non-offensive in any reasonable sense, and it'd be
> a stretch to call it even disagreeable) at the very end of this email, and
> tell you what happened.
>
> The email was rejected on the following bases:
>
> A) "I may approve this email if you change the subject to reflect the
> content." Now, it was a response to Brigham's farewell message asking that
> he answer about a matter that occurred during his tenure. Yeah, I guess I
> could break up the email chain with a fresh header (so could the moderator)
> but is this truly grounds to moderate? And as I said in the email to the
> moderator, there was a timing issue. By the time I got the rejection
> message, Brigham had packed his desk and exited the WMF HQ no doubt. Note
> also that the moderator says he "may" approve if I do that. Or he may not.
> So he's setting up an iterative process.
>
> B) The moderator then gave me two suggestions on improving my phrasing
> within the email. For example I said "Mr. Brigham leaves in a couple days"
> but the moderator preferred "couple *of* days." Is this truly basis for
> moderation?! Minute preferences of writing style?
>
> C) Then came the insult. The moderator suggested I was "baiting the WMF,"
> and copied his fellow moderators to chime in. So he's now set up my email
> for a "consensus" style of approval. All the moderators must agree it's
> okay. It doesn't move on one or the other them, everybody has to sign off.
> My email (you can read it down below as I said) is not "baiting" (or
> trolling which I'd argue he really meant) it describes things, makes my
> point, refers in detail to past efforts I made to get an answer, and is
> generally polite.
>
> All for your perusal on the Wikimedia-l moderation question. Anyhow, I did
> feel aggravated at the time, and it turned me off to the list in general.
> This email itself will likely be rejected, if it is I'll consider sending
> it direct to the list participants that have commented.
>
> Trillium Corsage
>
> 26.07.2016, 14:58, "Brill Lyle" <wp.brilllyle(a)gmail.com>:
> > I was on a very active music mailing list for over 10 years and I was
> > grateful it was not moderated. Moderation can inhibit discussion, even
> when
> > there are disruptors, and it also requires moderators donate a lot of
> > volunteer hours. Which I think within the Wikimedia family community is
> > already being required of many of us. So I would vote against
> moderation.
> >
> > If an argument / shift was towards moderation, maybe it could be based
> on
> > edit count and/or contributions? But that seems a bit extreme and awful.
> >
> > - Erika
> >
> > *Erika Herzog*
> > Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle
> >*
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> A meta-question: I am wondering whether, if one thinks a user on this
> list
> >> should be moderated, it is better to discuss it privately with the
> list
> >> admins (who, if convinced, could announce the moderation publicly, or
> not),
> >> or publicly on this list (explicitly inviting more opinions, being
> >> transparent about my position regarding moderating the user, but also
> >> embarrassing the user whatever the outcome).
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> A.
> >> --
> >> Asaf Bartov
> >> Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org>
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> Mr. Brigham, although I've disagreed with some of the legally-meaningful
> actions taken by WMF during your tenure as well as the light actions taken
> against abusive administrative participants such as JurgenNL and TBloemink
> in the Moiramoira affair, I wish no person ill and in fact say good luck to
> you at Youtube.
>
> However since you're still on the clock so to speak at WMF for another
> couple days, I'm asking you to give a bit more description on the board's
> move about 18 months to remove the identification requirement for those
> volunteer administrative participants it accords access to the non-public
> information (IPs, cookies, etc.) of regular editors.
>
> I found this to be quite a betrayal of the rank and file editors whom had
> been led to believe the WMF assumed at least some responsibility, i.e. know
> who they are, for the online-privacy-affecting actions of the
> administrators, checkusers, oversighters, arbs, stewards, and UTRS/OTRS
> volunteers. You must have recommended the change to proceed, or at least
> not counseled against it, otherwise the board wouldn't have done so. Why
> did you do it?
>
> Rest assured I have looked all over for explanation and anything you might
> have said. I don't come and ask you this on the Wikimedia-l mailing list
> without having looked hard. I'm aware that Samuel J. Klein was the board
> member that raised the motion. When I asked him about it, he was
> unresponsive and terse except to say I should look over his previous public
> statements on the matter, not linking me to any. I looked all over for
> Samuel's public statements on the matter but they seem to be a rare species
> as I spied none at all.
>
> Lastly, I'm aware that the new access to non-public information policy
> requires the administrative participant to log on to some system, check a
> box indicating he or she has read the policy, and then "enter a name." Can
> you (or anyone?) point to me to a WMF person who can provide the statistics
> and other information as to how many have provided their names, how many's
> accesses were removed as a consequence of *not* providing their names, what
> exactly is accepted as a "name," what occurs when the administrative
> participant inputs for examples just a first name, or a nickname, or a
> username?
>
> Appreciate your reading, and thanks in advance for answering.
>
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