On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Tom Morris <tfmorris(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is to add MusicBrainz to the primary source tool, not anything else?
>
>
> It's apparently worse than that (which I hadn't realized until I re-read the
> transcript). It sounds like it's just going to generate little warning
> icons for "bad" facts and not lead to the recording of any new facts at all.
>
> 17:22:33 <Lydia_WMDE> we'll also work on getting the extension deployed that
> will help with checking against 3rd party databases
> 17:23:33 <Lydia_WMDE> the result of constraint checks and checks against 3rd
> party databases will then be used to display little indicators next to a
> statement in case it is problematic
> 17:23:47 <Lydia_WMDE> i hope this way more people become aware of issues and
> can help fix them
> 17:24:35 <sjoerddebruin> Do you have any names of databases that are
> supported? :)
> 17:24:59 <Lydia_WMDE> sjoerddebruin: in the first version the german
> national library. it can be extended later
>
>
> I know Freebase is deemed to be nasty and unreliable, but is MusicBrainz
> considered trustworthy enough to import directly or will its facts need to
> be dripped through the primary source soda straw one at a time too?
The primary sources tool and the extension that helps us check against
other databases are two independent things.
Imports from Musicbrainz have been happening since a very long time already.
Cheers
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On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Tom Morris <tfmorris(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks! Is there any more information on the issue with MusicBrainz?
>
> 17:26:27 <DanielK_WMDE> sjoerddebruin: yes, we went for MusicBrainz first,
> but it turned out to be impractical. you basically have to run their
> software in order to use their dumps
>
>
> MusicBrainz was a major source of information for Freebase, so they appear
> to have been able to figure out how to parse the dumps (and they already
> have the MusicBrainz & Wikipedia IDs correlated).
>
> Is there more detail, perhaps in a bug somewhere?
The issue is that they do offer dumps but you need to set up your own
musicbrainz server to really use it. This was too time-intensive and
complicated for the students to make progress on during their project.
Because of this they decided to instead opt for another dataset
instead to get started. In the future Musicbrainz should still get
done. If anyone wants to work on adding more datasets to the tool
please let me know.
Cheers
Lydia
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Hey everyone :)
We'll be doing the next Wikidata office hour on September 23rd at
17:00 UTC. See http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=17&min=00&sec=0&d…
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Hello people,
Just an idea. Number of Syrian refugees is over 4,000,000 people, mostly residing in Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan and Iraq.[1] Refugee camps are set in all in these countries.[2]
Internet-in-a-Box[3] is a a WiFI-device with "Wikipedia in 37 languages, a library of 40,000 e-books, most of the world's open source software and source code, hundreds of hours of instructional videos, and world-wide mapping down to street level.”
Could we as a movement get the internet-in-a-box to the refugee camps?
- Teemu
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_refugee_camps
[3] http://internet-in-a-box.org
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Greetings,
The reading team has been having a series of meetings as part of the
ongoing strategy process,. We documented and clarified as much details as
possible, here
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Strategy/Strategy_Process>, in
order to empower everyone to become part of the process, while following
the same methodology.
For example, instead of saying "*The overall page views numbers are
declining and thats a problem that we need to solve*" by applying our
process, the suggested statement is questioned to whether this is a problem
in itself or it is a result of another problem? If we picked one possible
reason, what are our choices to solve the problem, and what possibilities
does each choice entail? What are the concerns with each possibility and
what are the tests that we need to run to justify our concerns?
Sounds complicated? :-)
Not really. The key is to ask the right questions and always remain
focused on the initial problem.
In our own exercise, we identified one problem that manifests itself across
different indicators is our core system's lack of optimization for emerging
platforms, experiences, and communities.
The team can not do this alone. We need more people to join our exercise,
please check the documentation
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Strategy/Strategy_Process>, make
yourself familiar with the process, and think of suggesting choices
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Strategy/Strategy_Process/Choices>,
generating possibilities
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Strategy/Strategy_Process/Possibilit…>,
and designing tests
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Strategy/Strategy_Process/Tests>.
Questions and comments are welcome on the talk page.
Lets get this done, together!
Happy weekend,
M