Wikimedia-l August 2014

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Thanks to the Wikimedia Projects, including for the great idea of the so-called navigation blocks.
by Shlomi Fish 22 Aug '14

22 Aug '14

Hi all, as you may have seen on the English wikipedia and elsewhere, there are navigation blocks implemented templates like these: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GNU * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:FOSS * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Star_Trek Now, recently, I've contemplated some strategies for allowing people to navigate among various topical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_fiction and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_fiction#Crossovers on my home site, and ended up concluding that implementing such navigation blocks would be the best solution. So I did just that: * http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/Selina-Mandrake/#star_trek_nav_block So I'd like to thank the English wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, which I've been using, linking or referring to, or even contributing to a little (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shlomif ) for inspiring this feature and for being wonderful in general. You guys rock! Stay smashing! (And become even more so.) Regards, Shlomi Fish P.S: here's a cute kitten as a token of my gratitude: http://imgur.com/NmQOgTH -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/Can-I-SCO-Now/ - “Can I SCO Now?” There is no IGLU Cabal! None of them could pass the Turing test. But strangely enough a computer program they coded, could. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Compare person data
by WereSpielChequers 22 Aug '14

22 Aug '14

re the birth anomalies, we have been running a process for several years now that looks for people alive according to certain wikipedias and dead according to up to 80 others. The format works well and has been broadened to various other anomalies such as being dead but not born. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Death_anomalies_table The key thing to remember is that when Wikipedias differ you need reliable source to settle the difference. Wikidata may or may not make this sort of thing easier, but my suspicion is that resolving anomalies will improve Wikidata as well as Wikipedia. Regards Jonathan (WereSpielChequers) > On 19 Aug 2014, at 22:05, wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:04:17 -0400 > From: MZMcBride <z(a)mzmcbride.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Compare person data > Message-ID: <D018C23A.422B5%z(a)mzmcbride.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Gerard Meijssen wrote: >> What is needed is a report that looks good enough for now and a public ie >> visible place to put it. > > Neat idea! > > There's <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports>, of > course. In my experience, users don't really care what the report is > titled or how it looks; they're much more concerned with accurate and > up-to-date (read: actionable) report data. > > One of the benefits of using a wiki page is that wiki pages have pre-built > notification structures (watchlists, RSS feeds, IRC feed, and e-mail). > > To this end, depending on who the relevant audience is of this report, > updating multiple pages on local wikis may be a lot more fruitful. > > MZMcBride

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Options for the German Wikipedia
by MZMcBride 22 Aug '14

22 Aug '14

Hi. The German Wikipedia has evaluated and decided against the default use of MediaViewer on its project (preferring opt-in, rather than opt-out). Erik has made it his mission to impose MediaViewer on the German Wikipedia using Wikimedia Foundation staff coercion (cf. <https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153302> and <https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/153345>). Both changes have been pushed through hastily and have had negative repercussions as a result (missing translations, disrupted workflows, etc.). From a recent Bugzilla comment about the latter change, "it's clear this change was a kneejerk reaction without a lot of thought as to the effects." The security of the entire MediaWiki infrastructure, which in turn is the security of a large portion of Wikimedia wikis, heavily relies on the idea that local administrators can be trusted. With his provocative actions, Erik has declared war on the German Wikipedia. Given this, there are options for the German Wikipedians. This is a non-exhaustive list and may not reflect the latest waste of developer and system administrator resources coerced by Erik. * Local disruptive accounts (such as "User:Eloquence" and "User:JEissfeldt (WMF)") can be locally blocked by German Wikipedia administrators for conduct unbecoming. * Global accounts can have their privileges removed by stewards, who are intended to serve as the "root" users of Wikimedia wikis. * While the German Wikipedia's "MediaWiki:Common.js" has been super-protected, there are other pages such as "MediaWiki:Vector.js", "MediaWiki:Monobook.js", and "MediaWiki:Group-user.js" that can probably be used to achieve the same effect. * Importing edits on top of an existing page should replace the content and bypass any protection, though this theory needs additional testing. * Certain pages in the MediaWiki namespace such as "MediaWiki:Copyright" still allow raw HTML, which can be used for a direct "<script>" insertion. * JavaScript gadgets can be enabled by default across a wiki. * CentralNotice from Meta-Wiki can be used to deploy JavaScript to the German Wikipedia. There are also more extreme options available. * Using per-user CSS or JavaScript to forcibly hijack Erik's or another staff member's account. This can be done locally on any wiki, including sites such as Meta-Wiki. * Disabling editing and/or reading of the German Wikipedia, using a variety of tools. Erik's declaration of war makes this option viable, but it should likely be used only as a measure of last resort. If Erik is truly hell-bent on damaging or destroying the wiki model, perhaps the wiki should simply cease to be. Using the title blacklist, the AbuseFilter extension, site-wide JavaScript and CSS, and other techniques, it's possible to fully disable reading and/or editing of the German Wikipedia until an amicable solution can be found. * A Wikimedia-wide vote of no confidence for Erik. Again, this is an extreme option, but given Erik's behavior over the past few weeks (including his actions on the English Wikipedia, which resulted in an arbitration case involving him), beginning a vote of no confidence is an idea worthy of consideration. There are also alternate options. * Disabling the MediaViewer extension by default on the German Wikipedia, as requested by the German Wikipedia community. * Accepting Erik's authority over the technical infrastructure of Wikimedia wikis and allowing him to rule as a technical autocrat. I'm interested to read others' views about options and ways forward here. MZMcBride

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@WikipediaZero Twitter account
by Andy Mabbett 21 Aug '14

21 Aug '14

Who owns the @WikipediaZero Twitter account? It's only ever had one post, and that seems a missed opportunity. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata-l] Compare person data
by Magnus Manske 20 Aug '14

20 Aug '14

Thanks for this. You might want to filter it, though: For example https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q85256 states "born in 1606" (no month or day given), but your report at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Ladsgroup/Birth_date_report2/26 gives it as 1606-01-01, which then conflicts with the date given in Wikipedias (1606-03-18). Wikidata is less precise than Wikipedia here, but not actually wrong. Maybe these cases should be treated separately from the potential errors. Cheers, Magnus On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I started this report, you can find it here > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Ladsgroup/Birth_date_report2>. > > Best > > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> It's possible and rather easy to add them .just several regexes and list >> of months in that language are needed. but the issue is no major wikis >> except these three are using a person data template (Almost all of them >> have the template but almost none of them are using it widely) If any other >> wiki is using a person data template widely, I would be happy to implement >> it. >> >> Best >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < >> amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: >> >>> Can we join more Wikipedias to the comparison? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי >>> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >>> ‪“We're living in pieces, >>> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ >>> >>> >>> 2014-08-19 10:38 GMT+03:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Hoi, >>>> Amir has created functionality that compares data from en.wp de.wp and >>>> it.wp. It is data about "humans" and it only shows differences where >>>> they >>>> exist. It compares those four Wikipedias with information in Wikidata. >>>> >>>> The idea is that the report will be updated regularly. >>>> >>>> The problem we face is: what should it actually look like. Should it >>>> just >>>> splatter the info on a page or is more needed. At this time we just have >>>> data [1]. >>>> >>>> Please help us with something that works easily for now. Once we have >>>> something, it can be prettified and more functional. >>>> Thanks, >>>> GerardM >>>> >>>> [1] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8079742/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>>> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/GuidelinesWikimedia-l@lists.w…> >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Amir >> >> > > > -- > Amir > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >

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Brevity
by Austin Hair 20 Aug '14

20 Aug '14

With 11 days remaining in August, I'd like to remind everyone that Wikimedia-l's guidelines[0] ask that subscribers keep their post count below at most 30 per month. This guideline exists to help curb the temptation to weigh in on absolutely every point raised, turning what could otherwise be a carefully considered debate into a rapid-fire argument. (If that's what you're looking for, fear not—I'm sure IRC[1] has you covered.) I know that this month has seen a few contentious topics, but if you see yourself nearing 30 posts (Erik Zachte's ScanMail tool[2] is very helpful, here), perhaps it's worth sparing a moment for pause before clicking "reply." In fact, that's probably worth doing even if you aren't topping the charts. Less is sometimes more. Thanks for your attention, Austin [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Channels [2] http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Wikimedia-l.html

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Recruiting for Wikimedia security newsletter
by Pine W 20 Aug '14

20 Aug '14

Hi, In collaboration with Chris Steipp, I am considering starting a monthly security newsletter for Wikimedia, focused on common risks and mitigation techniques. The target audience is the broad Wikimedia community including developers, WMF and chapter employees, and volunteers with high risk accounts. Example topics: Phishing Coding best practices Wifi security Securing data stored on cell phones Check fraud Preventing insider theft of funds in Wikimedia organizations If you are interested in contributing to the newsletter please email me off list. Thanks, Pine

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Compare person data
by Cristian Consonni 19 Aug '14

19 Aug '14

Hi Amir, 2014-08-19 10:38 GMT+02:00 Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com>: > It's three now but the way I designed, it's very easy to extend. Thanks for this report. I am amazed that over the hundreds of thousands of Wikipedia biographies[*] it seems that we have only 38 inconsistencies. Am I understanding your report correctly? You may want to add some sort of "false positives" list. For example, for Jimmy Wales in it.wp[1] there's a through explanation about the uncertainty related to Jimbo's birth date. So I would consider that being a false positive. A similar situation occurs for Beethoven. That said I was able to find that Bob Marley's birth date in Wikidata was incorrectly set to 6 April 1945, when in fact it is indeed 6 February 1945 as en.wp, de.wp, and it.wp where correctly reporting. (Fixed[2] now!) Thanks! Cristian [*] 265537 in it.wiki: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:BioBot [1] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales [2] https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q409&diff=151644019&oldid=151167…

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Compare person data
by Gerard Meijssen 19 Aug '14

19 Aug '14

Hoi, Amir has created functionality that compares data from en.wp de.wp and it.wp. It is data about "humans" and it only shows differences where they exist. It compares those four Wikipedias with information in Wikidata. The idea is that the report will be updated regularly. The problem we face is: what should it actually look like. Should it just splatter the info on a page or is more needed. At this time we just have data [1]. Please help us with something that works easily for now. Once we have something, it can be prettified and more functional. Thanks, GerardM [1] http://paste.ubuntu.com/8079742/

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Wikimedia Mexico. Report of Activities of July 2014
by Carmen Alcázar 19 Aug '14

19 Aug '14

Dear community: Below you will find the report of activities of the month of July 2014 done by the volunteers of Wikimedia Mexico. Please don't hesitate to get in touch with us if you require extra information about this activities or only to make some suggestions. The report is also available on Spanish and English in our wiki: https://mx.wikimedia.org/wiki/Informes/Julio_2014/ (Spanish) https://mx.wikimedia.org/wiki/Informes/Julio_2014/en (English) Kindly regards. On behalf our chapter. Carmen Alcázar (User:Wotancito) WMMX Secretary. ==Highlights== ===Three simultaneous Wikipedia workshops in three different cities=== On July 26, three Wikipedia workshops were given in three cities of Mexico. The venues was TelmexHub in Mexico City by Omar Sandoval, Carmen Alcázar, Iván Martínez, y Gustavo Sandoval; HackerGarage in Guadalajara by Salvador Alcántar and Capilla del Arte in Puebla by José Flores. It is the first time in the history of Mexican chapter that we have three training activities in three Mexican cities simultaneously and in the case of Guadalajara, this workshop was the first to be taught in that city. [1] ===Volunteer's WikiPicnic for Wikimania 2015=== On July 20, a Volunteer's WikiPicnic for Wikimania 2015 was held in the Second Section of Chapultepec, bound for Wikimania 2015. Carmen Alcázar initially spoke about the event and solve some questions about the Wikimedia projects, giving way to a soccer match among the attendees. At the end, the picnic was held with everyone within a casual and fun time. The last to leave the park did about 6 pm. [2] Jul 5 * Moebius radio program 14/19: "''De Juan O'Gorman a Alberto Kalach''" (From Juan O'Gorman to Alberto Kalach) Jul 10 * Working meeting for Wikimania 2015 Jul 12 * Moebius radio program 14/20: "''De lambada a murciélagos''" (From lambada to Chiroptera) Jul 14 * Beginning of Wikipedian In Residence project in Museo Soumaya [3] Jul 20 * Picnic at the second section of Bosque de Chapultepec in order to meet the team of volunteers who will participate in Wikimania 2015. Jul 23 * Participation of Carmen Alcázar in "Participación de las mujeres en el campo tecnológico" discussion table at Universidad del Claustro de Sor Juana, Mexico City, among other female involved in tech initatives. [4] * Interview to Carmen Alcázar for La Jornada newspaper with the title "Demandan políticas tecnológicas con perspectiva de género" on July 24. [5] Jul 26 * Workshop: Introduction to Wikipedia at Capilla del Arte, Puebla. * Workshop: Introduction to Wikipedia at Hackergarage, Guadalajara. * Wikipedia Monthly Workshop at Telmexhub, Mexico City. [6] Jul 30 *Virtual meeting of the Wikimedia Mexico board. Jul 31 *GLAM meeting with Centro de Cultura Digital staff. [7] [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_workshop_at_Telmex_Hub Photos in Wikimedia Commons [2] https://mx.wikimedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Wikipicnic_Wikimania_2015_volunteers.… [3] https://mx.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proyectos:Museo_Soumaya [4] https://mx.wikimedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Participaci%C3%B3n_de_las_mujeres_en_… [5] http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2014/07/24/sociedad/039n1soc [6] https://mx.wikimedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Taller_Mensual_de_Wikipedia_Julio_06.… [7] https://mx.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proyectos:Centro_de_Cultura_Digital

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