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[Language Engineering] Office hour on May 8, 2013 at 1700 UTC/1000 PDT
by Runa Bhattacharjee 06 May '13

06 May '13

Hello, The Wikimedia Language Engineering team [1] invites everyone to join the team’s monthly office hour on May 8, 2013 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC/1000 PDT on #wikimedia-office. During this session we would be talking about some our recent activities and updates from the ongoing projects. Event details and the general agenda is mentioned below. See you all at the IRC office hour! Thanks Runa Event Details: =========== # Date: May 8, 2013 # Time: 1700-1800 UTC, 1000-1100 PDT #IRC channel: #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net Agenda: ------------ # Introductions # Universal Language Selector - Development updates, Deployment schedule # MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle (MLEB) Release # Maven program - upcoming events # GSoC update - we are participating in GSoC # Q/A - We shall be taking questions during the session. Questions can also be sent to runa at wikimedia dot org before the event and can be addressed during the office-hour. [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Language_Engineering_team -- Language Engineering - Outreach and QA Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 110, Issue 15
by Sylvia Ventura 05 May '13

05 May '13

Hi Victor, great initiative with a huge impact multiplier :) Regarding identifying specific language needs you might get some good intel connecting with groups doing work on the ground like School to School International (Africa, in french and portuguese speaking countries), Children International or even Unesco's Global Education Initiative, the Global Partnership for Education or the World Bank. Happy to facilitate conversations there. sv On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:55 AM, <wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > > Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to > wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WikiReaders4Kids (Oliver Keyes) > 2. Re: WikiReaders4Kids (Everton Zanella Alvarenga) > 3. Re: WikiReaders4Kids (Abbas Mahmood) > 4. Re: WikiReaders4Kids (Oona Castro) > 5. Re: WikiReaders4Kids (rupert THURNER) > 6. And content - Re: WikiReaders4Kids (Mathias Damour) > 7. Re: WikiReaders4Kids (Victor Grigas) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 15:51:59 +0100 > From: Oliver Keyes <okeyes(a)wikimedia.org> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: > <CAAUQgdD9-y+AVX+VQLQcrVZWdd=3eYvbA9d56A9XzrCrkrspzw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > This is totally awesome! > > On 5 May 2013 09:46, Manuel Schneider <manuel.schneider(a)wikimedia.ch> wrote: > > > Great initiative. Actually the first time I donated real money to a > > Wikimedia project... sort of. > > > > /Manuel > > > > Am 05.05.2013 06:27, schrieb Victor Grigas: > > > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds > > to > > > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in > > > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. > > > > > > The campaign is here: > > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids > > > > > > The video is here: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 > > > > > > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign, > > > please share the link with others! > > > > > > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this > > > entirely as a volunteer. > > > > -- > > Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens > > Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > > -- > Oliver Keyes > Community Liaison, Product Development > Wikimedia Foundation > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300 > From: Everton Zanella Alvarenga <tom(a)wikimedia.org> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Cc: Mailing list do Capítulo brasileiro da Wikimedia. > <wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: > <CAEXLhE8bMRRyyx+TRD0_14iJXZkaNjrdNH9Pv70HugKa9-k5Yg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor. > > I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone tried > to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try < > http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da WMBR > com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo). > > What about using their software <http://thewikireader.com/> on Linux? If > you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are just > for Windows and Mac stuff. > > I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South > America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon < > http://www.amazon.com.br/> site. > > Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the hardware > source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we > could produce locally. > > Tom > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to > > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in > > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. > > > > The campaign is here: > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids > > > > The video is here: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 > > > > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign, > > please share the link with others! > > > > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this > > entirely as a volunteer. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > > > *Victor Grigas* > > Storyteller <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0> > > Wikimedia Foundation > > vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org > > +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 > > 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor > > San Francisco, CA 94105 > > https://donate.wikimedia.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > > -- > Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) > "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful > than a life spent doing nothing." > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 17:01:25 +0000 > From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: <DUB124-W346EF04B4A931C330A0E94CAB80(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > All the best, Victor! > Abbas. > > > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300 > > From: tom(a)wikimedia.org > > To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > CC: wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > > > > That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor. > > > > I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone tried > > to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try < > > http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da WMBR > > com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo). > > > > What about using their software <http://thewikireader.com/> on Linux? If > > you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are just > > for Windows and Mac stuff. > > > > I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South > > America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon < > > http://www.amazon.com.br/> site. > > > > Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the hardware > > source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we > > could produce locally. > > > > Tom > > > > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to > > > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in > > > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. > > > > > > The campaign is here: > > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids > > > > > > The video is here: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 > > > > > > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign, > > > please share the link with others! > > > > > > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this > > > entirely as a volunteer. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > -- > > > > > > *Victor Grigas* > > > Storyteller <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0> > > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org > > > +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 > > > 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor > > > San Francisco, CA 94105 > > > https://donate.wikimedia.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) > > "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful > > than a life spent doing nothing." > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 15:26:07 -0300 > From: Oona Castro <ocastro(a)wikimedia.org> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: > <CAMA2a_S3XhDV+Y7dc4ry7kMe2puB=zKcX5xQxoDYg3PbP5wKhQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Victor, > hope you're well. > > I found the campaign awsome and will be donating some money. > I was wondering whether that would be nice to donate some of them to the > global south, though import taxes might be an issue, as well as the fact > that it comes with the English Wikipedia and downloading other languages is > not that intuitive, though it's possible. > > Perhaps we could do the work of dowloading different languages and make a > contest to give them to a few here in Brazil, in India, Argentina, Egypt, > elsewhere? > > The other thing I though of was: I recently was gifted by Henrique with one > of those and in Amazon it's being sold by less than 10 dollars. So I think > you may get a good bargain for less than US$ 25 if you talk through it. > > let me know what you think > > Best regards > > Oona > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > All the best, Victor! > > Abbas. > > > > > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300 > > > From: tom(a)wikimedia.org > > > To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > CC: wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > > > > > > That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor. > > > > > > I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone > > tried > > > to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try < > > > http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da > > WMBR > > > com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo). > > > > > > What about using their software <http://thewikireader.com/> on Linux? If > > > you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are just > > > for Windows and Mac stuff. > > > > > > I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South > > > America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon < > > > http://www.amazon.com.br/> site. > > > > > > Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the > > hardware > > > source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we > > > could produce locally. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise > > funds to > > > > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids > > in > > > > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. > > > > > > > > The campaign is here: > > > > > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids > > > > > > > > The video is here: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 > > > > > > > > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the > > campaign, > > > > please share the link with others! > > > > > > > > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this > > > > entirely as a volunteer. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > *Victor Grigas* > > > > Storyteller <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0> > > > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > > vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org > > > > +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 > > > > 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105 > > > > https://donate.wikimedia.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) > > > "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful > > > than a life spent doing nothing." > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 20:27:20 +0200 > From: rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: > <CAJs9aZ8BtsmQ-zkjusg3c-d7d4Lwsgz=X+fy5NTCBV1NWVGAiA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > hehehe, victor, you are cool. because its a private initiative you use > your wikimedia mail account to advertise for it, in the video you make > sure that everybody konws you work for wikimedia foundation? the price > you give is interesting as well. on your money collection page you > write the devices cost 25 usd. on amazon they sell it for 9 usd. the > original price 5 years ago was 99 usd, where one could have a 29 usd > subscription to get the contents updated. > > i do not have a problem with all of this. i like your work you do, i > like the enthusiasm, i like that you guys do this voluntary. and i > especially like that you are able to think big. > > but what really stroke me: you say you would not buy it. if you would > not buy it, what makes you so sure that it will be of use for somebody > else? for children who like to see pictures? probably not. for adults > who will have smartphones in 2 years time? probably not as well. > > you might be interested in reading the report of the united nations > environment program coming out of the "E-Waste Africa Project": > http://www.basel.int/Implementation/TechnicalAssistance/EWaste/EwasteAfrica… > > "Africa has been undergoing rapid ICT transformation in recent years, > attempting to bridge this divide by importing second-hand or used > computers, mobile phones, and TVsets from developed countries. The > countries of the region, however, lack the infrastructure and > resources for the environmentally sound management (ESM) of electrical > and electronic waste (e-waste) arising when such imports reach their > end-of-life." > > rupert. > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to > > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in > > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. > > > > The campaign is here: > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids > > > > The video is here: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 > > > > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign, > > please share the link with others! > > > > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this > > entirely as a volunteer. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > > > *Victor Grigas* > > Storyteller <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0> > > Wikimedia Foundation > > vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org > > +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 > > 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor > > San Francisco, CA 94105 > > https://donate.wikimedia.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 20:31:38 +0200 > From: Mathias Damour <mathias.damour(a)laposte.net> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] And content - Re: WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: <5186A58A.7080407(a)laposte.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hi, > > How should be token into consideration the low readability of Wikipedia, > which was pointed out by some recent studies, as far as this device is > devoted to children ? > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/11/29/wikimedia-research-newsletter-novembe… > > There is Simple English Wikipedia as far as English is concerned. For > other language, there is the *Wikikids* proposal that has had some > activity recently and 2 or 3 existing and well running wiki for children. > That's about setting a frame pulled after the existing wikis for kids, > to make good work, associate potential editors (including children), and > then (notably ;-)) to supply a WikiReaders4Kids with suitable and > quality content a few years later ! > Present step is to assemble a comparison between those existing wikis to > help to work out what should be the basic principles for such a project. > Have a look at it ! > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids > > Le 05/05/2013 06:27, Victor Grigas a écrit : > > Hello everyone, > > > > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to > > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in > > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. > > > > The campaign is here: > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids > > > > The video is here: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 > > > > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign, > > please share the link with others! > > > > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this > > entirely as a volunteer. > > > > Thanks! > > -- > Mathias Damour > 49 rue Carnot > F-74000 Annecy > 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 > 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 > mathias.damour(a)laposte.net > http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 11:55:11 -0700 > From: Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: > <CAO4_ZTEqX6k4eOHwKpqnbjK=RNCTcE3cZGro7Dxf0wuTCRcD=Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi everyone - > > Ok a few things that people have brought up here and elsewhere: > > 1 - the manufacturer has said to us that the devices can come pre-installed > with whatever languages are already available : > http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/ and that he would help with > other language versions (from our dumps) if we communicated a need for it. > I mentioned this specifically: http://schools-wikipedia.org/ > > 2 - AMAZON! - yes these are the retailers sitting on overstock, we plan to > buy whatever is cheapest first (highest impact) -- and alot of people have > supersaver shipping (user:Ashstar01 too) > > 3 - recycling: scroll to the bottom: http://thewikireader.com/ > also the key in distribution will be to find the schools that could REALLY > USE the devices, (so that they do not go to waste) so if anyone on this > list knows schools, please share: > wikireaders4kids(a)gmail.com > http://wikireaders4kids.tumblr.com/suggest > > 4 - I hope i'm not creating any conflicts of interest by being a WMF > staffer, please know - if i do cross some line let me know and i'll correct > myself ASAP. I really mean this please contact me if you feel that there is > any COI at all. > > 5 - also here is the .en village pump post from a few weeks ago: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Free_Distri… > > 6 - we are also looking into contacting battery manufacturers and solar > charger manufacturers to see if they would like the good press by donating > a few of their chargers & batteries to the schools that end up getting the > wikireaders. > > Thanks for your interest everyone! As of me writing this, we are already at > $505 USD and I expect that alot of people are away from their computers for > the weekend and will see the campaign on Monday when they get to work. > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Oona Castro <ocastro(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > Hi Victor, > > hope you're well. > > > > I found the campaign awsome and will be donating some money. > > I was wondering whether that would be nice to donate some of them to the > > global south, though import taxes might be an issue, as well as the fact > > that it comes with the English Wikipedia and downloading other languages is > > not that intuitive, though it's possible. > > > > Perhaps we could do the work of dowloading different languages and make a > > contest to give them to a few here in Brazil, in India, Argentina, Egypt, > > elsewhere? > > > > The other thing I though of was: I recently was gifted by Henrique with one > > of those and in Amazon it's being sold by less than 10 dollars. So I think > > you may get a good bargain for less than US$ 25 if you talk through it. > > > > let me know what you think > > > > Best regards > > > > Oona > > > > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > All the best, Victor! > > > Abbas. > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300 > > > > From: tom(a)wikimedia.org > > > > To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > CC: wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > > > > > > > > That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor. > > > > > > > > I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone > > > tried > > > > to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try < > > > > http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da > > > WMBR > > > > com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo). > > > > > > > > What about using their software <http://thewikireader.com/> on Linux? > > If > > > > you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are > > just > > > > for Windows and Mac stuff. > > > > > > > > I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South > > > > America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon < > > > > http://www.amazon.com.br/> site. > > > > > > > > Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the > > > hardware > > > > source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we > > > > could produce locally. > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise > > > funds to > > > > > buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids > > > in > > > > > places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. > > > > > > > > > > The campaign is here: > > > > > > > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids > > > > > > > > > > The video is here: > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 > > > > > > > > > > Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the > > > campaign, > > > > > please share the link with others! > > > > > > > > > > While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this > > > > > entirely as a volunteer. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > *Victor Grigas* > > > > > Storyteller <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0> > > > > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > > > vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org > > > > > +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 > > > > > 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor > > > > > San Francisco, CA 94105 > > > > > https://donate.wikimedia.org/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) > > > > "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more > > useful > > > > than a life spent doing nothing." > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > > -- > > *Victor Grigas* > Storyteller <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0> > Wikimedia Foundation > vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org > +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 > 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor > San Francisco, CA 94105 > https://donate.wikimedia.org/ > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > End of Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 110, Issue 15 > ********************************************

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids (Victor Grigas)
by Fabrice Florin 05 May '13

05 May '13

Very cool idea! I just donated and tweeted about it. It's a really clever way to spread free knowledge to kids who need it the most. Well done, you guys! Fabrice On May 5, 2013, at 11:55 AM, wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 15:51:59 +0100 > From: Oliver Keyes <okeyes(a)wikimedia.org> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: > <CAAUQgdD9-y+AVX+VQLQcrVZWdd=3eYvbA9d56A9XzrCrkrspzw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > This is totally awesome! > > On 5 May 2013 09:46, Manuel Schneider <manuel.schneider(a)wikimedia.ch> wrote: > >> Great initiative. Actually the first time I donated real money to a >> Wikimedia project... sort of. >> >> /Manuel >> >> Am 05.05.2013 06:27, schrieb Victor Grigas: >>> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds >> to >>> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in >>> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. >>> >>> The campaign is here: >>> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids >>> >>> The video is here: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 >>> >>> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign, >>> please share the link with others! >>> >>> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this >>> entirely as a volunteer. >> >> -- >> Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens >> Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > > > -- > Oliver Keyes > Community Liaison, Product Development > Wikimedia Foundation > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300 > From: Everton Zanella Alvarenga <tom(a)wikimedia.org> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Cc: Mailing list do Capítulo brasileiro da Wikimedia. > <wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: > <CAEXLhE8bMRRyyx+TRD0_14iJXZkaNjrdNH9Pv70HugKa9-k5Yg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor. > > I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone tried > to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try < > http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da WMBR > com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo). > > What about using their software <http://thewikireader.com/> on Linux? If > you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are just > for Windows and Mac stuff. > > I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South > America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon < > http://www.amazon.com.br/> site. > > Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the hardware > source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we > could produce locally. > > Tom > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to >> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in >> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. >> >> The campaign is here: >> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids >> >> The video is here: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 >> >> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign, >> please share the link with others! >> >> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this >> entirely as a volunteer. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> >> *Victor Grigas* >> Storyteller <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0> >> Wikimedia Foundation >> vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org >> +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 >> 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor >> San Francisco, CA 94105 >> https://donate.wikimedia.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > > > -- > Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) > "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful > than a life spent doing nothing." > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 17:01:25 +0000 > From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: <DUB124-W346EF04B4A931C330A0E94CAB80(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > All the best, Victor! > Abbas. > >> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300 >> From: tom(a)wikimedia.org >> To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> CC: wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids >> >> That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor. >> >> I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone tried >> to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try < >> http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da WMBR >> com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo). >> >> What about using their software <http://thewikireader.com/> on Linux? If >> you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are just >> for Windows and Mac stuff. >> >> I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South >> America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon < >> http://www.amazon.com.br/> site. >> >> Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the hardware >> source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we >> could produce locally. >> >> Tom >> >> >> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to >>> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in >>> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. >>> >>> The campaign is here: >>> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids >>> >>> The video is here: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 >>> >>> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign, >>> please share the link with others! >>> >>> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this >>> entirely as a volunteer. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> >>> *Victor Grigas* >>> Storyteller <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0> >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org >>> +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 >>> 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor >>> San Francisco, CA 94105 >>> https://donate.wikimedia.org/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list >>> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) >> "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful >> than a life spent doing nothing." >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 15:26:07 -0300 > From: Oona Castro <ocastro(a)wikimedia.org> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: > <CAMA2a_S3XhDV+Y7dc4ry7kMe2puB=zKcX5xQxoDYg3PbP5wKhQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Victor, > hope you're well. > > I found the campaign awsome and will be donating some money. > I was wondering whether that would be nice to donate some of them to the > global south, though import taxes might be an issue, as well as the fact > that it comes with the English Wikipedia and downloading other languages is > not that intuitive, though it's possible. > > Perhaps we could do the work of dowloading different languages and make a > contest to give them to a few here in Brazil, in India, Argentina, Egypt, > elsewhere? > > The other thing I though of was: I recently was gifted by Henrique with one > of those and in Amazon it's being sold by less than 10 dollars. So I think > you may get a good bargain for less than US$ 25 if you talk through it. > > let me know what you think > > Best regards > > Oona > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> All the best, Victor! >> Abbas. >> >>> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300 >>> From: tom(a)wikimedia.org >>> To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> CC: wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids >>> >>> That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor. >>> >>> I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone >> tried >>> to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try < >>> http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da >> WMBR >>> com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo). >>> >>> What about using their software <http://thewikireader.com/> on Linux? If >>> you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are just >>> for Windows and Mac stuff. >>> >>> I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South >>> America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon < >>> http://www.amazon.com.br/> site. >>> >>> Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the >> hardware >>> source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we >>> could produce locally. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> >> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise >> funds to >>>> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids >> in >>>> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. >>>> >>>> The campaign is here: >>>> >> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids >>>> >>>> The video is here: >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 >>>> >>>> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the >> campaign, >>>> please share the link with others! >>>> >>>> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this >>>> entirely as a volunteer. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> *Victor Grigas* >>>> Storyteller <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0> >>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>> vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org >>>> +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 >>>> 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor >>>> San Francisco, CA 94105 >>>> https://donate.wikimedia.org/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list >>>> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) >>> "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful >>> than a life spent doing nothing." >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list >>> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 20:27:20 +0200 > From: rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: > <CAJs9aZ8BtsmQ-zkjusg3c-d7d4Lwsgz=X+fy5NTCBV1NWVGAiA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > hehehe, victor, you are cool. because its a private initiative you use > your wikimedia mail account to advertise for it, in the video you make > sure that everybody konws you work for wikimedia foundation? the price > you give is interesting as well. on your money collection page you > write the devices cost 25 usd. on amazon they sell it for 9 usd. the > original price 5 years ago was 99 usd, where one could have a 29 usd > subscription to get the contents updated. > > i do not have a problem with all of this. i like your work you do, i > like the enthusiasm, i like that you guys do this voluntary. and i > especially like that you are able to think big. > > but what really stroke me: you say you would not buy it. if you would > not buy it, what makes you so sure that it will be of use for somebody > else? for children who like to see pictures? probably not. for adults > who will have smartphones in 2 years time? probably not as well. > > you might be interested in reading the report of the united nations > environment program coming out of the "E-Waste Africa Project": > http://www.basel.int/Implementation/TechnicalAssistance/EWaste/EwasteAfrica… > > "Africa has been undergoing rapid ICT transformation in recent years, > attempting to bridge this divide by importing second-hand or used > computers, mobile phones, and TVsets from developed countries. The > countries of the region, however, lack the infrastructure and > resources for the environmentally sound management (ESM) of electrical > and electronic waste (e-waste) arising when such imports reach their > end-of-life." > > rupert. > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to >> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in >> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. >> >> The campaign is here: >> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids >> >> The video is here: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 >> >> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign, >> please share the link with others! >> >> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this >> entirely as a volunteer. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> >> *Victor Grigas* >> Storyteller <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0> >> Wikimedia Foundation >> vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org >> +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 >> 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor >> San Francisco, CA 94105 >> https://donate.wikimedia.org/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 20:31:38 +0200 > From: Mathias Damour <mathias.damour(a)laposte.net> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] And content - Re: WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: <5186A58A.7080407(a)laposte.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hi, > > How should be token into consideration the low readability of Wikipedia, > which was pointed out by some recent studies, as far as this device is > devoted to children ? > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/11/29/wikimedia-research-newsletter-novembe… > > There is Simple English Wikipedia as far as English is concerned. For > other language, there is the *Wikikids* proposal that has had some > activity recently and 2 or 3 existing and well running wiki for children. > That's about setting a frame pulled after the existing wikis for kids, > to make good work, associate potential editors (including children), and > then (notably ;-)) to supply a WikiReaders4Kids with suitable and > quality content a few years later ! > Present step is to assemble a comparison between those existing wikis to > help to work out what should be the basic principles for such a project. > Have a look at it ! > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids > > Le 05/05/2013 06:27, Victor Grigas a écrit : >> Hello everyone, >> >> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise funds to >> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids in >> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. >> >> The campaign is here: >> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids >> >> The video is here: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 >> >> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the campaign, >> please share the link with others! >> >> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this >> entirely as a volunteer. >> >> Thanks! > > -- > Mathias Damour > 49 rue Carnot > F-74000 Annecy > 00 33 (0)4 57 09 10 56 > 00 33 (0)6 27 13 65 51 > mathias.damour(a)laposte.net > http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 11:55:11 -0700 > From: Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids > Message-ID: > <CAO4_ZTEqX6k4eOHwKpqnbjK=RNCTcE3cZGro7Dxf0wuTCRcD=Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi everyone - > > Ok a few things that people have brought up here and elsewhere: > > 1 - the manufacturer has said to us that the devices can come pre-installed > with whatever languages are already available : > http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/ and that he would help with > other language versions (from our dumps) if we communicated a need for it. > I mentioned this specifically: http://schools-wikipedia.org/ > > 2 - AMAZON! - yes these are the retailers sitting on overstock, we plan to > buy whatever is cheapest first (highest impact) -- and alot of people have > supersaver shipping (user:Ashstar01 too) > > 3 - recycling: scroll to the bottom: http://thewikireader.com/ > also the key in distribution will be to find the schools that could REALLY > USE the devices, (so that they do not go to waste) so if anyone on this > list knows schools, please share: > wikireaders4kids(a)gmail.com > http://wikireaders4kids.tumblr.com/suggest > > 4 - I hope i'm not creating any conflicts of interest by being a WMF > staffer, please know - if i do cross some line let me know and i'll correct > myself ASAP. I really mean this please contact me if you feel that there is > any COI at all. > > 5 - also here is the .en village pump post from a few weeks ago: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Free_Distri… > > 6 - we are also looking into contacting battery manufacturers and solar > charger manufacturers to see if they would like the good press by donating > a few of their chargers & batteries to the schools that end up getting the > wikireaders. > > Thanks for your interest everyone! As of me writing this, we are already at > $505 USD and I expect that alot of people are away from their computers for > the weekend and will see the campaign on Monday when they get to work. > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Oona Castro <ocastro(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> Hi Victor, >> hope you're well. >> >> I found the campaign awsome and will be donating some money. >> I was wondering whether that would be nice to donate some of them to the >> global south, though import taxes might be an issue, as well as the fact >> that it comes with the English Wikipedia and downloading other languages is >> not that intuitive, though it's possible. >> >> Perhaps we could do the work of dowloading different languages and make a >> contest to give them to a few here in Brazil, in India, Argentina, Egypt, >> elsewhere? >> >> The other thing I though of was: I recently was gifted by Henrique with one >> of those and in Amazon it's being sold by less than 10 dollars. So I think >> you may get a good bargain for less than US$ 25 if you talk through it. >> >> let me know what you think >> >> Best regards >> >> Oona >> >> >> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> All the best, Victor! >>> Abbas. >>> >>>> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 12:46:22 -0300 >>>> From: tom(a)wikimedia.org >>>> To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> CC: wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiReaders4Kids >>>> >>>> That is a cool project. Congrats, Victor. >>>> >>>> I've a wikireader with me someone gave a few years ago. Have someone >>> tried >>>> to install a Wikipedia of another language? I will try < >>>> http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/> sometime soon (alguém da >>> WMBR >>>> com mais tempo, se quiser, fale comigo). >>>> >>>> What about using their software <http://thewikireader.com/> on Linux? >> If >>>> you were successfull with that, please, let me know. Their apps are >> just >>>> for Windows and Mac stuff. >>>> >>>> I'll check if'd possible to have these machines sold somehow in South >>>> America. Ideas? At least we still don't have at our recent Amazon < >>>> http://www.amazon.com.br/> site. >>>> >>>> Maybe it would be good to suggest wikireader producers to have the >>> hardware >>>> source open as well, if that don't make they go bankrupt. Who knows we >>>> could produce locally. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> >>>>> My partner and I just started a campaign on Indiegogo.com to raise >>> funds to >>>>> buy all remaining WikiReaders and distribute them to schools and kids >>> in >>>>> places that don't have internet at no charge to the schools and kids. >>>>> >>>>> The campaign is here: >>>>> >>> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-us-distribute-wikireaders-to-kids >>>>> >>>>> The video is here: >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j07ROeiaFg0 >>>>> >>>>> Please consider funding the campaign and if you can't fund the >>> campaign, >>>>> please share the link with others! >>>>> >>>>> While I am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, I am doing this >>>>> entirely as a volunteer. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> *Victor Grigas* >>>>> Storyteller <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0> >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>>> vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org >>>>> +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 >>>>> 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor >>>>> San Francisco, CA 94105 >>>>> https://donate.wikimedia.org/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list >>>>> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) >>>> "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more >> useful >>>> than a life spent doing nothing." >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list >>>> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list >>> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > > > -- > > *Victor Grigas* > Storyteller <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0> > Wikimedia Foundation > vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org > +1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773 > 149 New Montgomery Street 6th floor > San Francisco, CA 94105 > https://donate.wikimedia.org/ > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > End of Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 110, Issue 15 > ******************************************** _______________________________ Fabrice Florin Product Manager, Editor Engagement Wikimedia Foundation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF) Donate to keep Wikipedia free: https://donate.wikimedia.org/

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Human-assisted machine translation (it was: "The case for supporting open source machine translation")
by WereSpielChequers 04 May '13

04 May '13

Re David's point "One of the biggest problems in MT is word disambiguation." I'm sure that this would be correct, though probably more strongly in some languages than in others. English for example has many words with meanings as diverse as bonnet (headware, a type of chili and in some countries part of a car), faggot (meatballs, a bundle of firewood and a pejorative term). I'd add a further problem is that trivial almost cosmetic errors in one language can become magnified by machine translation. For example one of my contributions to the English Wikipedia is to hunt for the sort of typos that a spellchecker won't pickup. I've abolished the entire Olympic Sport of synchronised ventriloquism (the throwing of discusses), reduced the choice of Olympic medals from four to three by eliminating sliver medals and dramatically reduced the number of actors who have been staring in various films. My assumption is that after machine translation staring and starring, like cavalry and calvary, posses and possess will in most languages other than English be very different words. I think that gives this movement three interesting and relatively easy routes to improve the quality of any machine translation of our projects. The first would be to roll out the bot I've been using to find easily confused words to other languages than English. The second would be to collaborate with any of the existing machine translation providers and ask them to give us lists of phrases in our work that they find hard to translate. My hunch would be that this would be a good source of anomalies that need fixing. The third would be word disambiguation, for languages like English and Portuguese there is significant demand amongst our readers for a choice as to which language variant they are reading. We could quite easily offer a US/UK choice for registered editors, and default IP readers in some parts of the world to the most likely variant. But to do this to a reasonable standard of quality we would need to disambiguate words such as bonnet, tap, flat and bear. Of course there is a huge amount of work in doing the above, even if we had some user friendly apps that showed people a paragraph of text and asked them to pick the correct meaning of an ambiguous word. But these are precisely the sort of easy entry level tasks that we need to give a gentle learning path for new editors. Our edit filters and vandalfighting bots have taken away vandalism as a way to recruit new editors, and AWB and other quality improvement programs mean that we aren't recruiting as many new editors from readers who just spot a typo and fix it. Word disambiguation, possibly incorrect words and ambiguous sentences would be a great way to recruit our readers to become editors. We just need a little advert "can you spare a few minutes to improve Wikipedia" and we could crowd source this to our readers. Jonathan Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:26:44 -0400 > From: David Cuenca <dacuetu(a)gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Human-assisted machine translation (it was: > "The case for supporting open source machine translation") > Message-ID: > < > CAJBSGSoRh_TPr++NOHokW7BCLDY7r1p1JhZW42LkcRLuYfQg6A(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I have been giving some thought to Erik's proposal and while already > fascinating, I would like to put it in different terms. > Instead of asking "Could open source MT be such a strategic investment?", I > would ask "is there a way to have Wikimedia's technology and people > involved collaborate with MT systems?" The first can be seen as entering > areas quite out of reach, the second would be more about paving the way for > other actors that are already in the field. Our strength has always been > based around human collaboration empowered by technology, and if MT is > wished, then we should consider approaching it from our areas of expertise. > > One of the biggest problems in MT is word disambiguation. Wikidata's item > properties could be a way of setting the general context for article > translation, and if that results not to be reliable enough, users should > have the opportunity to specify on the source text the intended meaning of > a certain word. While that could be less than ideal for literary works, > where double meanings and other subtleties must be taken into account, it > might be quite useful for Wikipedia, providing MT software a fertile soil > where to grow. The standards for specifying word meanings for MT software > are unknown to me, but it might be worth exploring. > > Another interesting hurdle for MT is dictionary building. OmegaWiki seems > like a system that could be used for bridging the gap between pairs of > languages, in such a way that if we know the exact use of the word in the > source language, a user could seamlessly fill in the missing word and > definition in the target language. That could be a unique way of > collaboration between source-language speakers providing precision about > the meaning being used, and target-language speakers filling the gaps. > > Dictionaries alone are not enough. Grammar rules would need to be wikified. > All in all, OmegaWiki/Wiktionary could become the front-end and repository > for external MT systems, either to be used in Wikipedia or with other > pages. > > It wouldn't be needed to create a new MT system, because the rule-based MT > programs that could make use of such infraestructure already exist. Some of > them are open-source too. If you are interested, I could ask for opinions > about the feasability in the Apertium lists. In my opinion, they also fit > into the "smartest, well-intentioned group of people" category that Erik > was asking about. > > Cheers, > David --Micru > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Chris Tophe <kipmaster(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > 2013/4/29 Mathieu Stumpf <psychoslave(a)culture-libre.org> > > > > > Le 2013-04-26 20:27, Milos Rancic a écrit : > > > > > > OmegaWiki is a masterpiece from the perspective of one [computational] > > >> linguist. Erik made the structure so well, that it's the best starting > > >> point to create a contemporary multilingual dictionary. I didn't see > > >> anything better in concept. (And, yes, when I was thinking about > > >> creating such software by my own, I was always at the dead end of > > >> "but, OmegaWiki is already that".) > > >> > > > > > > Where can I find documentation about this structure, please ? > > > > > > > > Here (planned structure): > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OmegaWiki_data_design > > > > and also there (current structure): > > http://www.omegawiki.org/Help:OmegaWiki_database_layout > > > > And a gentle reminder that comments are requested ;-) > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Adopt_OmegaWiki > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > > -- > Etiamsi omnes, ego non > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > End of Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 109, Issue 114 > ********************************************* >

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Fwd: WMHK's official statement regarding the recent decision of FDC
by Rover Wong 04 May '13

04 May '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rover Wong <rover(a)wikimedia.hk> Date: 2013/5/4 Subject: WMHK's official statement regarding the recent decision of FDC To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription)" <internal-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Wikimedia Hong Kong (WMHK) opposes the recent decision of the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) of Wikimedia Foundation. The FDC has rejected the proposal submitted by WMHK. Wikimedia Hong Kong, the Hong Kong local chapter of Wikimedia Foundation, has the mission to promote Wikimedia projects and free cultures among local community in Hong Kong. WMHK achieves the mission through several outreach projects, which are funded by the grants from Wikimedia Foundation. The rejection of funding from the FDC makes WMHK having difficulties to continue achieving its mission. We note that the FDC is concerned about WMHK’s internal governance, financial management capacity, and capacity of its volunteers to manage future projects. The FDC also mentioned that past activities do not sufficiently demonstrate a record of high impact. The problem is that WMHK is run by volunteers who have limited time. WMHK itself also has limited resources. To increase such capacities and impact mentioned by the FDC, WMHK has the necessity to recruit full-time staff in order to handle daily operation of WMHK as well as manage the projects. However, the recruitment cannot be done as WMHK lacks funding. Another reason why FDC rejected WMHK’s proposal is that WMHK is out of compliance with its previous WMF grants. It is incorrect to say that as all the previous WMF grant projects were already submitted before the submission of the proposal to FDC. It is also incorrect to mention that WMHK mismanaging the previous funds, as there is no clear guideline on what to do if there is money left. We believe the decision of the FDC is inappropriate. The decision is totally harmful for the development of WMHK, as well as the development of free culture in Hong Kong. The Wikimedia Foundation has the obligation to promote Wikimedia projects and free culture around the world. The rejection of funding makes the promotion of those projects in Hong Kong more difficult. The rejection of funding also makes the volunteers in WMHK think that their work is totally denied by the Wikimedia Foundation. -- Rover T.F. Wong President Wikimedia Hong Kong -- Rover T.F. Wong President Wikimedia Hong Kong

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what are your favorite wikimania proposals?
by phoebe ayers 03 May '13

03 May '13

Submissions for Wikimania are now closed, and there are lots and lots of good ones: http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Submissions Attendees are encouraged to go through and indicate what sessions are of interest to them, to provide feedback to the program committee. Please do so ASAP as the committee is now in the process of rating and sorting submissions! -- Phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers <at> gmail.com *

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias
by James Forrester 03 May '13

03 May '13

On 18 April 2013 17:32, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > TL;DR: VisualEditor will be deployed on 14 new Wikipedias next week as an > opt-in alpha. Your assitance is requested to inform your wikis about this > and help get the software translated. This is now done (for de, nl, fr, it, ru, es, sv, pl, ja, ar, he, hi, ko, and zh). Grateful for feedback, bug reports and suggestions of how we can improve the VisualEditor for you. Yours, -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforrester(a)wikimedia.org | @jdforrester

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Accommodation best practices
by Maarten Dammers 02 May '13

02 May '13

Hi everyone, Last year after the Berlin Hackathon I sent an email to internal-l about the accommodation. The text I sent was quite sharp to get a response. A lot of people replied to the email and it contained a lot of useful opinions. The discussion was quite heated at some point and I would like to have something positive from it. I still have it on my todo list to start and/ or improve the Accommodation best practices. Does such a page already exist on meta or should I start a new one? Maarten

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Invitation to WMF April 2013 Metrics and Activities Meeting: Thursday, May 2, 18:00 UTC
by Praveena Maharaj 02 May '13

02 May '13

Dear all, The next WMF metrics and activities will take place on Thursday, May 2, 2013 at 6:00 PM UTC (11 AM PDT). The IRC channel is #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net and the meeting will be broadcast as a live YouTube stream. The current structure of the meeting is: * Review of key metrics including the monthly report card, but also specialized reports and analytics* Review of financials* Welcoming recent hires* Brief presentations on recent projects, with a focus on highest priority initiatives* Update and Q&A with the Executive Director, if available Please review https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings for further information about how to participate. We'll post the video recording publicly after the meeting. Thank you, Praveena -- Praveena Maharaj Executive Assistant to the VP of Engineering and Product Development +1 (415) 839 6885 ext. 6689 www.wikimedia.org

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[Fundraising 2013] Wikimedia France stepping back from payment processing
by Christophe Henner 02 May '13

02 May '13

Hi everyone, A quick email to announce and explain current WMFr payment processor status. As some of you know, French regulations makes it hard to transfer ver 50% of the fund raised locally to an international organisation. Until know, WMFr budget was always somewhat equal to 50% of the money raised. Last year fundraising was "too" efficient in France and we've reached the point when 50% of the funds raised in France are much more than WMFr actual budget. In face of that situation, Wikimedia France board has asked WMF to stop being a payment processor in 2013, and that until we have found a suitable solution to handle the movement needs. We already have possible solutions, such as asking for having a "super charity" status (reconnaissance d'utilité publique / being recognised as an organisation for general good). That process is a lengthy and over bureaucratic one, and we don't know how fast it can get to obtain it. In the coming month, WMFr will work with WMF on explaining to French donors that they can't ask for tax deduction next year and handling their requests. As said last year in our letter to the board and ED of Wikimedia Foundation, being a payment processor or not doesn't change whether WMFr will support the localisation of the fundraising efforts. Late 2012, WMFr board decided to start looking for external funding sources. Removing ourselves will also allow us to dedicate more resources to that activity. Our hope is that in the coming months WMFr will have a stronger fiscal position and will be able to ask to be a payment processor again because we still believe that having local fundraising handled by local organisations is more efficient and more sustainable on the long run. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask even offline if you prefer to. Best, Christophe HENNER | Vice-chair ------------------------------------------------------------------- › Mail : christophe.henner(a)wikimedia.fr › Mobile : +33(0)6 29 35 65 94 › Tel : +33(0)5 62 89 12 01 › Twitter : @Wikimedia_Fr ----------------------------------------------------- Wikimédia France | Association pour le libre partage de la connaissance | Visitez notre blog http://blog.wikimedia.fr

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