Kudos to the community and WMF teams for creating this outstanding document!
I love the brevity, clarity -- and yes, elegance -- of your human-readable summary.
I'm amazed that you managed to fit our most important goals, rights and responsibilities into just 12 bullet points.
It's an inspiring achievement, which I will seek to emulate in my own work.
Well done, everybody!
Fabrice
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Fabrice Florin
Product Manager,
Editor Engagement
Wikimedia Foundation
+1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6827 work
fflorin(a)wikimedia.org
On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:00 AM, wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:43:04 -0700
> From: Philippe Beaudette <philippe(a)wikimedia.org>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updated Terms of Use
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> Birgitte, Andrew, thank you for your kind words. True credit on this one
> goes to Maggie, Geoff, and the community members who worked countless hours
> with them and discussed in great detail almost every word of the thing. I
> think everyone involved would tell you that it was a thoughtful,
> deliberative, and truly exhausting process.... but it was amazing in its
> collegiality in the final product.
>
> I'm proud to be part of the team that worked on this, but my role was
> small... my hat is off to Maggie, Geoff, and all the others who
> participated (below, I have listed everyone with more than 15 edits to the
> talk page where it was developed.)
>
>
> Community Members with more than 15 edits to the Talk page:
>
> Geoffbrigham
> Mdennis (WMF)
> WhatamIdoing
> Filceolaire
> FT2
> Peteforsyth
> Michaeldsuarez
> Seth Finkelstein
> Angel54 5
> Seb az86556
> WereSpielChequers
> Steven (WMF)
> Rosenkohl
> Esetzer
> Wnt
> Teofilo
> Philippe (WMF)
> John Vandenberg
> Danhash
> Rich Farmbrough
> Dcoetzee
> 62.140.210.130
> ?????? ?????
>
>
> ___________________
> Philippe Beaudette
> Director, Community Advocacy
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>
> 415-839-6885, x 6643
>
> philippe(a)wikimedia.org
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, <Birgitte_sb(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Andrew Garrett <agarrett(a)wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Philippe Beaudette
>>> <philippe(a)wikimedia.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> As you may be aware, Wikimedia has updated its Terms of Use. This
>> updated
>>>> version will become effective on May 25, 2012, and can be reviewed
>>>> here<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use_%282012%29/en
>>> .[1]
>>>> A short overview of some of the changes is set out
>>>> here<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/New_Terms_of_use>.
>>>> [2]
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Philippe
>>>>
>>>
>>> Terms of use are boring, and most of us are pretty jaded by how
>>> impenetrable, legalistic and, well, awful, most terms of use are on the
>>> internet.
>>>
>>> I want to congratulate you and your department on NOT doing this. The new
>>> terms of use are written in clear English, well set out, and cover what
>>> seem to be the appropriate bases without being overly verbose and
>> cautious.
>>>
>>> Well done, Philippe, Geoff, and everyone else.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I am also impressed. It actually ends up being the best one piece
>> introduction to what Wikimedia *is* that I have ever read. A lot of
>> thought and consideration were soundly invested in that document. Clarity
>> on that level is HARD, but well worth the effort. I also am thinking that
>> the staff have just set a rather high bar for the board. Imagine if all
>> board resolutions were written with as just as much focus on clarity and as
>> on circumspection. These terms of use show it is possible.
>>
>> Birgitte SB
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Gayle Young, the Wikimedia Foundation's Chief Talent and Culture Officer,
will be our guest for IRC office hours on Tuesday, May 1, at 17:00 UTC.
Gayle is a ridiculously smart lady, who has a deep interest in
organizational development; some members of local chapters met her in
Berlin. This should be a really interesting session... I strongly
encourage anyone interested in that topic - or who has an interest in the
HR/personnel matters of the Foundation - to attend.
Office hours will be in #wikimedia-office on the freenode IRC network.
More details and time conversions can be found at
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Philippe Beaudette
Director, Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
415-839-6885, x 6643
philippe(a)wikimedia.org
There have been drastic changes to the CISPA language, (and
here "drastic" is an understatement). Not only have they removed
the language that would have made Wikimedia look like right
prat -- hooray...ish -- but the emphasis on the agreement between
large scale traffic sites giving their userinformation over in a
quid pro quo fashion, has shifted towards language enabling
them to deputise (security clearances in an expedited fashion) small
time hacker collectives to conduct activities which might or might not
be illegal, as long as it is for the good of the country, and as long as
they can be relied to keep their mouths shut.
At this point I think *any* action by Wikimedia would be misinterpreted.
There is no-longer any text there that would affect Wikimedia directly.
There may be an argument that the bill as a whole is still detrimental
to the internet as a whole and to the United States economy, and by
that route to Wikimedia. But that is such an involved chain, that we
would certainly be accused of being political, if Wikimedia protested
in any shape or form, on those grounds.
Assuming the draft prevails of course. That is a gamble. I think the
backdoor option we have is to pressure Obama to Veto the bill. He
needs a win against Congress, and afte the SOPA affair this could
well be his, He certainly could activate all the people who phoned
in on the SOPA thing, if he wants to.
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