Wikimedia-l April 2012

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Release of educational videos under creative commons
by emijrp 24 Apr '12

24 Apr '12

2012/4/24 Andrew Cates <andrew.cates(a)soschildren.org> > Um. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Video appear to all be > images relevant to the topic of videos. Not themselves videos. > > Sorry, a missing S, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Videos > Owner? Not personally but I am the CEO of the charity which owns them and > I can release them. > > Is there any actual video anywhere on WP and in what format? > > Yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_containing_video_clips The prefered format is Theora https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Video > Andrew > ========== > (Please, press "Reply all" to send your e-mails to the mailing list too, and not just me) > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:26 PM, emijrp <emijrp(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> 2012/4/24 Andrew Cates <andrew.cates(a)soschildren.org> >> >>> I am wondering about releasing many hundreds of Africa educational videos >>> under creative commons. >>> >>> They are the videos currently at www.our-africa.org which is a child >>> generated reference site about Africa. >>> >>> There is a lot of material in the videos which could be edited and used >>> to >>> improve Wikipedia article (a solar kettle in operation, a maize plant >>> grinding maize, a variety of musical instruments in use, different >>> religious festivals, cocoa plantations etc etc) >>> >>> However at present Wikipedia does not seem to support or want video >>> material. >>> >> >> Wikipedia supports video with [[Media:]] tag. Also, Wikimedia Commons has >> a little collection of them >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Video >> >> >>> >>> Does anyone have a feel whether this is likely to change? >>> >>> >> http://www.videoonwikipedia.com >> >> Also, this message is more related to Wikimedia or Commons mailing lists >> (cc:). If you are the owner of those videos and you want to donate them, >> some people can help you in the process. >> >> >>> Andrew >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>> Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com >> Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) >> Projects: AVBOT <http://code.google.com/p/avbot/> | StatMediaWiki<http://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es> >> | WikiEvidens <http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/> | WikiPapers<http://wikipapers.referata.com> >> | WikiTeam <http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/> >> Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/ >> >> > -- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT <http://code.google.com/p/avbot/> | StatMediaWiki<http://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es> | WikiEvidens <http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/> | WikiPapers<http://wikipapers.referata.com> | WikiTeam <http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/> Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/

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[Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 8, Issue 17 -- 23 April 2012
by Wikipedia Signpost 24 Apr '12

24 Apr '12

Investigative report: Spin doctors spin Jimmy's "bright line" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-04-23/Invest… News and notes: Help-space revamp, WikiTravel RfC, and Justin Knapp scores a million edits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-04-23/News_a… WikiProject report: Skeptics and Believers: WikiProject ''The X-Files'' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-04-23/WikiPr… Featured content: A mirror (or seventeen) on this week's featured content http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-04-23/Featur… Arbitration report: Evidence submissions ends in Rich Farmbrough case, vote on proposed decision in R&I Review http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-04-23/Arbitr… Technology report: Wikimedia Labs: soon to be at the cutting edge of MediaWiki development? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-04-23/Techno… Single page view http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single PDF version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-04-23 http://identi.ca/wikisignpost / https://twitter.com/wikisignpost -- Wikipedia Signpost Staff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost _______________________________________________ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Wikimedia-l, the public mailing list of the Wikimedia community. For more information about Wikimedia-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l _______________________________________________ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list WikimediaAnnounce-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l

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We're Almost There!
by Audrey Abeyta 24 Apr '12

24 Apr '12

Dear Wikipedia contributors, In the past few weeks, I have reached out to this community on numerous occasions, requesting help with my undergraduate honors thesis, which examines Wikipedians’ motivations to contribute. For anyone who would like more information about this project, a detailed description can be found here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Motivations_to_Contribute_to_Wikipe… . In my last email, I mentioned that I hoped to attain a sample size of at least 100 Wikipedians, but had only received 52 responses. I am ecstatic to report that I now have 82 responses – just 18 responses short of the targeted sample size. If you have not taken the questionnaire<https://us1.us.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_8ixU9RkozemzC4s>, please consider donating approximately five minutes of your time to complete it. I am so grateful for the Wikipedia community’s support in this project and will make a final draft of the paper available to the community. If you have any questions or concerns about this study, please contact Audrey Abeyta at audrey.abeyta(a)gmail.com. Thank you in advance for your participation! Audrey UC Santa Barbara | Department of Communication audrey.abeyta(a)gmail.com

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FDC Advisory Group selection complete
by Barry Newstead (WMF) 23 Apr '12

23 Apr '12

Hi - Per earlier communications, we have selected the Advisory Group to support the design process for the Funds Dissemination Committee in accordance with the formation process we laid out on Meta.[1] The FDC Advisory Group role and the names of the members can be found on Meta.[2] Thanks to all who were nominated for the Group and we hope that everyone will contribute to the process. Please do "watch" the Funds Dissemination Committee pages and contribute to the design process.[3] [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/FDC_Advisory_G… [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/FDC_Advisory_G… [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Funds_Dissemination_Committee Thanks, Barry -- Barry Newstead Chief Global Development Officer Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission
by Craig Franklin 23 Apr '12

23 Apr '12

> > Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:02:29 +0200 > From: Thomas Goldammer <thogol(a)googlemail.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] ombudsmen commission > Message-ID: > <CAL0e-KVCetcaaKNQuiSwX5ckBnxqw=9_6vhkdj988yPz3wDwEA(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > You can clearly document the process that you follow. You can publish > > metrics like those Lodewijk suggested (and actual numbers, not just > > guesses). It would be nice to have a page on meta that says how many > > cases are currently at each point in the process and is kept > > up-to-date. > > You just volunteered to set up such a page on Meta (for 2012, I mean). > I already described the process we use, so this should be possible for > you to do. Thanks. > I thought Thomas's requests and suggestions in this case were quite valid and reasonable, and they did not deserve such a condescending and passive-aggressive response. I'm sure you're all very busy but that's no excuse for not continually striving for a higher standard of transparency and accountability (within the obvious restrictions that your work imposes). Regards, Craig Franklin

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features
by Fabrice Florin 23 Apr '12

23 Apr '12

Here's a thoughtful suggestion on this topic from a journalist who emailed me today about our editor engagement challenges at Wikipedia. I generally agree with his observations that Wikipedia needs to be more social. And one of the ways we can do this is to encourage more positive feedback for editors, both from within Wikipedia -- and from the broader community outside Wikipedia. To be continued ... Fabrice ______________________ Subject: Re: GIFT ECONOMY -- suggestion for Fabrice Here's my 2-cent suggestion for Wikimedia: The value that a user gets in making gratis contributions to any site including Wikipedia is in the feedback from your fellow users. No feedback, or negative feedback, and you don't hang around. ... On Wikipedia, there is very little in the way of positive feedback if you do something good, and a ton of negative feedback for everything from a style/format error to those "this article needs more whatever" boxes. Yes, those things are necessary to maintaining quality, but if you contribute content (which I've only done a little of) they wear you down. It's like being in a course where the professor fills your papers with criticism and never once says, "good job". So I think the answer is that Wikipedia needs to be more social. It needs a different kind of moderation. And it needs more mechanisms for positive feedback. __________________________________ Fabrice Florin Product Manager, Editor Engagement Wikimedia Foundation +1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6827 work fflorin(a)wikimedia.org On Apr 22, 2012, at 2:51 PM, wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:34:34 -0700 > From: Oliver Keyes <okeyes(a)wikimedia.org> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Editor retention implies social features > Message-ID: > <CAAUQgdCH9wAurhERb_Yb1KvbY2g1oSb20bCaKMV_DSMLfMOYaw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Just to chip in here; Privacy, with *any* feature we introduce, is a top > priority. When Product Development was coming out with the features > engineering plan, anything that looked like it could screw with individual > privacy was very, very quickly nipped in the bud. > > Now, if by "social" you mean "features purely dedicated to > recreational/sharing activities", the answer is no: we're not currently > planning any. From my (personal) perspective, it is very very hard to do > these things and integrate into other services without putting our users at > risk. And putting our users at risk is not what we're about. We're not > doing what Facebook does because we're *not Facebook*. > > If, on the other hand, you just mean "features to promote greater > communication and networking between editors", that's a clear priority - > I'm happy to talk to people about the work we're doing, and to hear any > suggestions along the way :). > > On 21 April 2012 21:52, Mono <monomium(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Tom, has a reputable news source actually verified this? Even Wikipedia >> editors know that HuffPost isn't reliable... >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Tom Morris <tom(a)tommorris.org> wrote: >> >>> On 16 April 2012 18:41, Jan Ku?era <kozuch82(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>> how do we want to work on editor retention if we lack social features >> at >>> all??? >>>> >>>> These go in the right direction: >>>> http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Improving_our_platform >>>> http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_features >>>> >>>> Is WMF going to act finally??? >>>> >>> >>> Only with community approval. On English Wikipedia, we have discussed >>> social media/social network integration repeatedly. Share This buttons >>> and so on. And editors don't want it. >>> >>> See >>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PEREN#Share_pages_on_Facebook.2C_Tw… >>> . >>> >>> English Wikinews already has some, but there's a much smaller >>> community there who can decide which services we wish to integrate >>> with. >>> >>> If we're going to have social "features" (and I use that word with >>> deliberate scare quotes around it) mandated by the Foundation, I do >>> hope we are going to worry about privacy. A former co-worker of mine >>> discovered that NHS Direct, the health information website provided >>> the UK's National Health Service, had Facebook share this links that >>> were transmitting every page you went to on NHS Direct to Facebook, >>> which could be matched to your Facebook profile if you are logged in. >>> Which is kind of shocking given that people use NHS Direct to look up >>> information on health conditions they think they might have, as well >>> as all sorts of other personal issues (sexual health, gender identity, >>> advice on fixing lifestyle health issues like smoking and drinking). I >>> wouldn't want the clickstream of people visiting Wikipedia articles >>> shared on Facebook without them pretty explicitly choosing to share >>> that information. We've already seen one kid in Britain who has >>> allegedly been thrown out of his house by fundamentalist parents after >>> Facebook algorithmically outed him as gay. [1] >>> >>> I do also hope we'd decide on what basis we'd choose these social >>> services. Okay, yes, Facebook is pretty popular in the West. And >>> Twitter. And maybe G+. But what about in China: do we want to support >>> sharing to sites that are being censored by the Chinese government? >>> Does the Foundation have the expertise to know what the popular social >>> networking sites are in every country and language in the world? And >>> we'd then become a commercial player: if we had done this years ago >>> and had added MySpace integration, the moment MySpace stops being so >>> popular and Wikipedia (whether that's the community or the Foundation) >>> de-emphasizes the MySpace sharing/social functionality, there'd be a >>> big stack of headlines about how Wikipedia is pulling out of MySpace. >>> We really ought to be neutral in this market, and there's only one way >>> to be neutral: try as hard as possible not to participate. >>> >>> You know, there might be an easier solution here: people who are into >>> the whole social networking thing, their browsers ought to improve >>> sharing with their social networks. Social plugins for browsers like >>> Firefox and Chrome are opt-in for the user, and can give a better >>> experience than Wikipedia pages being turned into NASCAR-esque branded >>> adverts for dozens of social sites. I know Mozilla people have been >>> discussing coming up with better ways of doing social sharing at the >>> browser level. >>> >>> [1] >>> >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/facebook-targeted-advertising-gay-… >>> >>> -- >>> Tom Morris >>> <http://tommorris.org/> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list >>> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > > > -- > Oliver Keyes > Community Liaison, Product Development > Wikimedia Foundation

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next Wikidata office hours
by Lydia Pintscher 23 Apr '12

23 Apr '12

Hi everyone! I will be holding the next round of Wikidata office hours next week. You're all invited to ask questions and discuss. If you can't attend there will be logs. * 30. April, English, 12:00 UTC (see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=12&min=00&sec=0&d… for different time zones) * 30. April, German, 4:30pm UTC (see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16&min=30&sec=0&d… for different time zones) They will happen in #wikimedia-wikidata on freenode. My (virtual) door is open outside these office hours as well of course ;-) Cheers Lydia http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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User retention statistics?
by Yaroslav M. Blanter 22 Apr '12

22 Apr '12

My message is inspired by discussion in this thread (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Loss_o…) on Englush Wikipedia. Whereas the thread itself is not relevant to this list, and the points get re-iterated on a regular basis, there were statements made there which contain quantitative estimates (for instance that 90% established users who leave do it because they get a new job or have their external life changed in some other way, and not because of harassment etc). Most probably these numbers are not really justified, but then I wanted to know what real numbers are. I am an Rcom member, but I can not recollect such research being accomplished (I might be wrong of course). I could not find data easily either (I spent half an hour because I remembered we had a Community Health initiative group which somehow evolved into the Movement Roles, but the Movement Roles pages on Meta do not talk about community health at all, and I could not even find an appropriate page to ask the question). After this long introduction, does somebody know / can point out the answers to the questions: 1. What is the average lifetime of a Wikipedia editor (for instance the one with at leat 1000 contributions)? I recollect smth about two years, but I am pretty sure I have never seen any research on this. How does it depend on the number of contributions? 2. What are the main reasons why these editors stop editing? Is this correct, for instance, that external reasons are much more important than internal (on-wiki troubles and wiki-related harassment) reasons? The same for say those above 10000 edits? Thanks in advance Cheers Yaroslav

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Wikipedia Education Program Metrics and Activities Meeting - Monday, April 23
by En Pine 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

Hi everyone, I thought that participants on this list might like to know that the April “Wikipedia Education Program Metrics and Activities Meeting” will be Monday, April 23, at 20:00 UTC / 13:00 (1 pm) PST. The meeting should be under one hour long and will happen over Webex. Information is at https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Education_Program_Metrics_and… including notes from past meetings and information on how to get into the Webex meeting. I’ll be chairing the April meeting. Several WMF staff will be present. Agenda: * Welcome * Country updates: U.S., Canada, Egypt, Brazil, and possibly others * U.S./Canada student survey results from fall 2010 * Working Group information * Q&A For those who haven’t heard about the new Working Group, you can find more info about it at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Education_Working_Group. A good place for questions about the Working Group appears to be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Education_Working_Group. Hopefully we’ll also learn useful information at this meeting and have sufficient time for questions during the Q&A. Regards, Pine

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Board Meeting Live from Monmouth
by Richard Symonds 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

All, We'll be webcasting the interesting bits of today's Monmouth WMUK Board Meeting. You can watch by going to http://monmouthpedia.wordpress.com/webcast/. All the best, Richard Symonds Office & Development Manager Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 07885 764 613 Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited, a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). It is an independent non-profit organization with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk

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