Wikimedia-l December 2012

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Wikivoyage project launch/migration update
by Erik Moeller 05 Jan '13

05 Jan '13

Hi folks, a quick update on the launch of a travel project under the WMF umbrella, and the import of the existing Wikivoyage site. * The name of the new site will be wikivoyage.org, per community vote. Language domains will live at (foo).wikivoyage.org. * A mailing list has been set up at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l * We're not planning to import "Wikivoyage Shared" (which is a media repository similar to Commons) and are encouraging the community to help with transferring appropriately licensed files to Wikimedia Commons. * The Wikivoyage Association is currently finalizing details of a domain name transfer with WMF. They have also recently secured wikivoyage.com. * The technical launch team at WMF consists of Chris Steipp, Daniel Zahn, Sam Reed, Matthias Mullie, and myself. Everyone is encouraged to help. Technical updates will be posted to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_migration and related pages. We're using #wikimedia-wikivoyage on irc.freenode.net to coordinate, so feel free to join us there any time and use it for other related issues. * We've received a tarball of extensions running on the Wikivoyage sites, have imported them into Wikimedia's Git repo, and are currently reviewing them and making changes where needed to ensure they're ready for WMF. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_migration/Extensions for a list of extensions if you want to help (and feel free to comment on the priorities suggested by the Wikivoyage folks) We may not be able to deploy all extensions; we're using the two week time-box for the launch as the main forcing function. * The hairiest part is to properly migrate user accounts. We can only migrate with users' permission, so Wikivoyage will kick off an opt-in process shortly to ask users to consent to transferring their private account data. On the WMF side, we have to reconcile account names with existing ones and require renames if necessary. We'll set up an initially private test instance in Labs and iterate over it with a (possibly reduced) content import, to ensure that all the tricky legal bits (e.g. attribution) are handled correctly. Then we'll set up the production cluster wikis. * Our goal is to go live by the end of this month. That might slip depending on the domain name transfer and unexpected technical hurdles or emergencies on the WMF side. We will aim to minimize downtime for current users, and to ensure that the old sites can be available in read-only mode for a little while longer to make it possible to compare site behavior. Let me know if you have any questions about the process. :-) All best, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

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Annual Audit of the Wikimedia Foundation
by Garfield Byrd 03 Jan '13

03 Jan '13

Hello: The annual audit of the Wikimedia Foundation, for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2012 and the corresponding FAQ have been posted on the financial reports <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Financial_reports> page of the Wikimedia Foundation web site. Please contact me with any questions. Garfield -- Garfield Byrd Chief of Finance and Administration Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext 6787 415.882.0495 (fax) www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org*

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compromise?
by James Salsman 02 Jan '13

02 Jan '13

How about for the April fundraiser, instead of setting a dollar value goal, we agree to use multivariate analysis instead of A/B testing to optimize the messaging from volunteer submissions in advance, then run the whole thing for a fixed time frame, say three weeks, and then use the actual amount raised to decide whether salaries should be competitive with area tech firms, whether Fellowships should be jettisoned, how much personell to put into the Education Program and engineering, and how much of a reserve to invest, preferably with low risk instruments which pay above the rate of inflation?

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"Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices)
by ENWP Pine 02 Jan '13

02 Jan '13

I'm sending this to Wikimedia-l, Wikitech-l, and Research-l in case other people in the Wikimedia movement or staff are interested in "big data" as it relates to Wikimedia. I hope that those who are interested in discussions about WMF editor engagement efforts, WMF fundraising, or WMF HR practices will also find that this email interests them. Feel free to skip straight to the links in the latter portion of this email if you're already familiar with "big data" and its analysis and if you just want to see what other people are writing about the subject. * Introductory comments / my personal opinion "Big data" refers to large quantities of information that are so large that they are difficult to analyze and may not be related internally in an obvious way. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_data I think that most of us would agree that moving much of an organization's information into "the Cloud", and/or directing people to analyze massive quantities of information, will not automatically result in better, or even good, decisions based on that information. Also, I think that most of us would agree that bigger and/or more accessible quantities of data does not necessarily imply that the data are more accurate or more relevant for a particular purpose. Another concern is the possibility of unwelcome intrusions into sensitive information, including the possibility of data breaches; imagine the possible consequences if a hacker broke into supposedly secure databases held by Facebook or the Securities and Exchange Commission. We have an enormous quantity of data on Wikimedia projects, and many ways that we can examine those data. As this Dilbert strip points out, context is important, and looking at statistics devoid of their larger contexts can be problematic. http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1993-02-07/ Since data analysis is also something that Wikipedia does in the areas I mentioned previously, I'm passing along a few links for those who may be interested about the benefits and limitations of big data. * Links: >From the Harvard Business Review http://hbr.org/2012/04/good-data-wont-guarantee-good-decisions/ar/1 >From the New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/30/technology/big-data-is-great-but-dont-fo… and https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/sunday-review/big-datas-impact-in-the-wo… >From the Wall Street Journal. This may be especially interesting to those who are participating in the discussions on Wikimedia-l regarding how Wikimedia selects, pays, and manages its staff. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443890304578006252019616768.h… And from English Wikipedia (: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_data and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_mining and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_intelligence Cheers, Pine

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Annual Audit of the Wikimedia Foundation
by James Salsman 30 Dec '12

30 Dec '12

> Reviewing the log from those office hours, it appears Garfield did not > "accept and speak highly of the suggestion", he merely said he would > look into the possibility. Well I'm glad someone is sanity-checking me, but the statement "We get some of best ideas from the community" occurred after the question about certificates of deposit from credit unions and before the response to the next question. > I'm also rather skeptical of the underlying claim about the superiority > of credit union CDs in this context So I googled "credit union 6 month certificates of deposit best rate" and found http://www.gobankingrates.com/cd-rates/6-month-cd/ which shows offers of 1.47% for six month and 1.86% for 12 month CDs from Metropolitan Service Credit Union, all of which are federally guaranteed for up to $250,000, the same amount the government guarantees all Citibank deposits per depositor for any total. Their next four top rates, all over 1.0%, are also from federally guaranteed credit unions. Citibank's website says they offer 0.15% for six month and 0.2% for twelve month CDs over $100,000. So it looks like the actual ratio is that credit unions are offering up to about nine times as much interest instead of the four times as much as it was in April. For a $20 million reserve fund, the difference is about $300,000 per year.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] compromise?
by James Salsman 30 Dec '12

30 Dec '12

> The April fundraiser is on translated messages IIRC. I'm sorry, I don't understand what this means. Where are plans for the April fundraiser being discussed? > No sane person can be expected to be put in a holding pattern > for three months before an organizations STARTS to decide what > internal projects will be supported. I didn't mean to suggest that anyone be placed in a holding pattern, or otherwise interrupted. I thought I made it clear that I wanted the Fellowship Program to continue at least until reasonable community consultation could take place. > WMF in terms of compensation. It's below some companies that are > similar to us.... Wikimedia is above most non-profits that do tech work Could we please have some examples? I've been trying to identify any Bay Area tech non-profit or for-profit companies which tend to pay less than the Foundation, and from the extent of public information, I'm having trouble finding any, let alone any possible evidence of "most". Have any donor surveys asked donors whether they would prefer that the Foundation pay salaries competitive with local software development firms? I want to continue to encourage the use of measured data as opposed to opinion, assumption, and anecdotes. I have reason to believe from a small informal survey that the majority of donors would prefer that Wikimedia *meet or exceed* the prevailing pay for the same labor. I would also love to know how much of a reserve or endowment donors would prefer that we raise. I'm completely convinced that donors, the community, and everyone else who interacts with it in any way would prefer a lot more resources for the Education Program. Have any of these questions ever been included in a donor survey? The number of community members who found the "Narrowing focus" proposal in time to express a strong opinion on maintaining the Fellowship Program may be less than two dozen, but I can only find a single community member who spoke in support of eliminating it. I've looked at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sue_Gardner/Narrowing_focus and the mailing lists. Can anyone find a second community member who agreed with eliminating the Fellowship Program?

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If I could talk to the wiki folks...
by James Heilman 30 Dec '12

30 Dec '12

Hum yes. We wanted Wikimedia Medicine, than where not able to get permission to us Wikimedia so changed it to Wiki Medicine, NY state did not like Medicine (and if we wanted to use it we needed permission from some medical board) so abbreviated that as well giving us Wiki Med. NY state added the Foundation Inc. bit. The hope is to one day operate under the name Wikimedia Medicine. Hopefully with a bit of paper work this can be achieved. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee activity levels
by ENWP Pine 30 Dec '12

30 Dec '12

Nathan, I agree that other qualitative and quantitative information would be helpful and I hope that Sj or other trustees will comment on the level of trustee engagement. >From what I've seen in the public records, the attendance of WMF trustees at Board events seems to be fairly good, but that says nothing about whether trustees were asking valuable questions and contributing substantially to conversations with staff and other trustees. I am wondering if we could have live broadcasts of the non-confidential portions of Board meetings, similar to how the monthly live metrics meetings are broadcast. Would anyone on the board or from staff (Sue? Geoff?) like to comment on that idea? Thanks, Pine > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 16:52:32 -0500 > From: Nathan <nawrich(a)gmail.com> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee activity levels > Message-ID: > <CALKX9dQXUrtPzd-DEgVem2s3FcVeOpcDfF4fETrHOMHYgxvqZA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > The obvious point, which has been made many times on this list over the > years, is that activity on mailing lists or meta is not a good proxy for > measuring the activity of a member of the board. The best measure would be > engagement with the duties of the board (which don't include posting on the > lists or being an active editor). We'd need peer evaluations and meeting > attendance records to really get to that. If we had that information, I > know it would figure in my voting for board elections. > >

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...
by James Heilman 29 Dec '12

29 Dec '12

Yes so Wiki Med Foundation Inc incorporated Dec 19, 2012 and we had our first official board meeting Dec 26, 2012. We have had expressed interest from 57 people from more than a dozen countries with a large group of interested members from India. Our 9 board members are from 7 different countries. Our first official event is being held January 7-11th at the University of California San Francisco in collaboration with Wikimedia Canada. We have been invited by the college of medicine to give a half dozen lectures on Wikipedia and Medicine and a few editing sessions where students and staff can try their hand at editing themselves. This is in preparation for an elective for 3rd and 4th year medical students which will resolve around contribution to Wikimedia projects hopefully to launch in the spring. Of course we are a new corporation, however our membership is composed of people who have extensive experience within the Wikimedia movement. Once we have had a chance to prove ourselves over the next 6 month we will re approach the aff com / Wikimedia movement to determine if an official association is desired. Currently as stated by Bence we are not officially associated. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com

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[Wikimedia Announcements] Wikizine - Year: 2012 Week: 53 Number: 133
by EN Wikizine 29 Dec '12

29 Dec '12

************************************************************ __ __ _ _ _ _ / / /\ \ \(_)| | __(_) ____(_) _ __ ___ \ \/ \/ /| || |/ /| ||_ /| || '_ \ / _ \ \ /\ / | || < | | / / | || | | || __/ \/ \/ |_||_|\_\|_|/___||_||_| |_| \___| .org Year: 2012 Week: 53 Number: 133 ************************************************************ An independent internal news bulletin for the members of the Wikimedia community //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// === Technical news === [Wikidata] - the new sister-project Wikidata is growing fast. By year's end the will get up to 2 million records. In the works is now the interwiki language information, later on infoboxes and lists will follow. At present the data of Wikidata is not yet used on any of the projects. The plans are to switch over the Hungarian language Wikipedia over to Wikidata for the use of there interwiki language links on January 14th 2013. What will that actually mean in practice? - When this function is enabled on a wiki the interwiki language links will be augmented with sitelinks injected in the Wikipedia article. It is unclear what happen in the future for sitelinks in non-wikipedia articles. At least if there are sitelinks available at Wikidata about that topic. The current local language links must be removed otherwise they will override the Wikidata sitelinks. You will be able to edit these sitelinks on the local wiki with JavaScript. Changes made on the Wikidata sitelinks that effect a local Wikipedia will propagate to them, and also show up in the recent changes of that wiki. If for some reason a local wiki does not want that the injected interwiki language links show up on a specific page the parser function {{noexternallanglinks}} can be used. When this function is active the net result is that the interwiki links will show up as usual if set, but the maintenance of sitelinks in the Wikipedia-projects will go away. http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Introduction -- overview of Wikidata [Visual Editor (Alpha!)] The wikisoftware that the projects are using MediaWiki has come far from the basic wiki it started with. But when you click on the "edit" button is still looks very the same, at least on not to complicated pages. Since very long there is talk about getting on the Wiki a so called WYSIWYG editor, like MS Word. Maybe not a function for everybody but it could get the less technical minded people on the wiki. At he English language Wikipedia and only there an early version of a Visual Editor that does that can be switched on in the users preferences. If you go to your "Preferences" screen and click into the Editing" section, it will have an option labeled "Enable Visual Editor". Please be careful, it is still buggy and you are not allowed to use it on the sandbox page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor [Mobile WP] the version of the website for use on phones is getting more functionality. As a logged in user you can edit pages if you enable the "beta" options. And if you enable the "Here be dragons mode" you can upload an image if you use a "webkit browser" like Google Chrome. http://en.m.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit [Translate] Translation of MediaWiki and documentation, policies, newsletters and any sort of page on our multilingual wikis is powered and made easy for thousands of translators by the Translate extension, born on translatewiki.net. A translation memory feature was recently enabled on all Wikimedia wikis after a long work. The translation interface is now being rebuilt to meet translators' needs: test it and give feedback! http://laxstrom.name/blag/2012/09/07/translation-memory-all-wikimedia-wikis/ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Translation_UX http://translatewiki.net === Offer === [Wikizine.org] this domain name is available to be used for a new project. If you have an idea for what this domain name can be useful for contact [[user:Walter]] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Walter === Proposals === [Wikimania 2013] The already 9th Wikimania will be in Hong Kong next year. It will be from 7 to 11 August 2013. The call for participation is open now! So, if you an idea for doing some sort of presentation at Wikimania then it is now the time to enter you proposal. http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions === Policy === [Uploads] It is proposed to start a new RfC to approve a new Local uploads policy. Local uploads need a big policy and template infrastructure; most wikis don't and can't have it, and at least a hundred wikis are currently breaking the WMF licensing policy. Additionally, only Commons has the UploadWizard. It's proposed to make uploads more effective and legal by switching them to Commons-only by default, so that only the wikis which have an EDP will keep or get local uploads. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Local_uploads_policy === Foundation === [WikiVoyage] "the free, worldwide travel guide that anyone can edit." will be joining the Wikimedia Foundation family officially on Wikipedia Day, January 15th 2013. The have there origin at Wikitravel.org, also a project with the same mission. The German language Wikitravel split off in 2006 and became Wikivoyage. The Wikimedia Foundation Wikivoyage will be the "fork" Wikivoyage in German and Italian and the content and most of the userbase of Wikitravel's remaining language editions. This results in the following languages that are supported in the new WMF-project; English, Dutch, French, German, Italian, Russian and Swedish. The interwiki link to link to Wikivoyage is "voy:". Example; the link for the page about "Bolivia" on the Dutch language Wikivoyage is [[voy:nl:Bolivia]] http://www.wikivoyage.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage [WMF annual audit 2011-2012] The annual audit of the Wikimedia Foundation, for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2012 and the corresponding FAQ have been posted on the financial reports page of the Wikimedia Foundation web site. The report shows that from a financial POV it goes very well with the WMF. Cash increased from $12 million to $21.8 million. Investment in technology has gone up by $2.6 million and net assets increased by $10.7 million. Expenses for the fiscal year increased from $17.9 million to $29.3 million. The total assets of the WMF are now over $ 37 million. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Financial_reports [Chapters comm. vacancy] The "Affiliations Committee" formerly known as Chapters Committee is searching for 6 new members. Deadline for candidacies is January 12th. Inform yourself very well in advance; there is actual work involved with it. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Call_for_Candidates_2… [Fundraiser] The last fundraiser already the 9th was once again a great success. The Wikimedia Foundation received 25 million US-dollar in donations from 1,2 million individuals. 25 million dollar is exactly the goal the WMF did set at the start of the campaign. This campaign did only run on the flagship wiki, the English language Wikipedia. The other languages and projects will get a fund drive presented on there wiki in April 2013. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/12/27/wikimedia-foundation-raises-25-million… [WMF annual plan 2012-2013] is published. It is fairly extensive and summarizing it in 3 sentences does not does it justice. Anyhow; focus will be in getting more people to edit and to keep the current editors. This by making it more easy for potential editors to do it, like the VisalEditor. The WMF also will continue to push to get access to Wikpedia by means of mobile data networks in developing country's free of charge. That is the "Wikipedia Zero" program. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Financial_reports http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero === Community === [Commons contest] Commons will start again with there yearly "Picture of the Year" contest, the 7th edition. Round one will start the day after Wikipedia Day. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Picture_of_the_Year/2012/Introduc… [Wikipedia almost 12-years old] Currently we are in the middle of the Christmas & new-year holidays. But once again the most important holiday of the calender is coming up; Wikipedia Day. On January 15th 2012 Wikipedia turned eleven years old. So it comes at no surprise that Wikipedia will now turn twelve. And do not forget, at January 25th there is also of course "Magnus Manske Day". Wikipedia day is the day the first Wikipedia the English one started. Magnus Manske Day celebrates the launch of the Phase II wikisoftware; a Wikipedia specific wiki, a very early version of MediaWiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Day https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Magnus_Manske_Day [Project proposal] Wikifocus; "to describe everything related to Wiki technology (wikis and their members, wiki softwares and their capabilities)." The proposal to add this project to the WMF family is open for discussion at Meta. Interesting about this is that there is already a small active Russian group of 20 users running a Russian independent Wikifocus wiki. Communication between these Russian speakers and English language users at Meta seems to be problematic. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiFocus -- join in and maybe help out with the Babel problems http://wikifocus.org/ -- active wiki in Russian [Wikizine] At the end of 2005 a news newsletter was started. The intention with it was to inform the community of all the projects across all languages about what was going on. To break the language barriers. For this a network of volunteers across the projects and languages was envisioned to make of Wikizine an information exchange hub. The years up to 2008 where the most successful years of Wikizine. There was a weekly publication rate and frequently extra editions. Wikizine existed also in German, Spanish and Indonesian. But it could not truly deliver the universal projects news as was intended. Wikizine was not able to attract and maintain the necessary people to make that happen. Due to the staff shortage quality could not be guaranteed. And from 2009 on also not the publication rate. It became more monthly then weekly. The other language editions where closed. The publication of Wikizine became an exception. Since 2010 Wikizine is virtually a dead newsletter. In August-September 2011 it suddenly came back to life under the direction of a new editor-in-chief with many different Wikizine versions. The new editor disappeared and so also the revival. And Wikizine continued in zombie mode until now. Wikizine 133, this edition, will be the final Wikizine. Thank you. [[User:Walter|Walter]] http://wikizine.blogspot.com -- Notice; new location for the blog, the domain name "wikizine.org" will not longer be supported [Wiktionary] is one of these projects of our WMF family that gets less space in the sun then others, the dictionary project. But it is more then a dictionary. It is a community building the absolute, the final dictionary. Offering translations from all languages to all languages is only a small part of its mission. There are around 150 active Wiktionary languages editions but the contain words in many more languages. Wiktionary has at least some words in 1029 different languages out of the over 6900 that exist. And Wiktionary has just celebrated its 10th anniversary as a project on December 12th. The full report and scope of the celebrations can be found at the link below. Media coverage of these celebrations could not be found unfortunately. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Wiktionary_Day [Wiktionary logos] 56 Wiktionaries who never had one got a localised logo enabled, thanks to the work by Casey Brown, Odder and many translators. More work is coming for dozens of Wikipedias and other projects without a localised logo; everyone can help. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/translators-l/2012-December/002193.html === Media === [Jimmy Wales & Kazahkstan] In August the WMF awarded by means of Jimmy Wales the first ever "Global Wikipedian of the Year" award to Rauan Kenzhekhanuly, a Wikipedian from Kazakhstan who founded a non-profit organization WikiBilim. With help of this organization the Kazakh Wikipedia grew from 7000 articles to 70,000 in 3 months time. (currently the are over 200,000 articles). Concerns are now raised that this Wikipedia of year is actually a government puppet of the dictatorial government of Kazakhstan. This because of the previous functions in the government service, especially in the propaganda department. And because the WikiBilim organization is funded with the money of state oil. Jimmy Wales responded with; "The Wikimedia Foundation has zero collaboration with the government of Kazakhstan. Wikibilim is a totally independent organization. And it is absolutely wrong to say that I am "helping the Kazakh regime whitewash its image." I am a firm and strong critic. At the same time, I'm excited by the work of volunteers, and I believevery stronglythat an open and independent Wikipedia will be the death knell for tyranny in places like Kazakhstan." http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/07/05/class-assignment-inspired-wikipedian-o… -- Wikipedian of the Year http://www.dailydot.com/politics/wikipedia-kazakhstan-dictatorship/ -- WikiBilm, the WP of the year and the Kazakh dictatorship http://tinyurl.com/cm5pdwm --- talk page of Jimmy Wales about this , it contains an extensive responds of Jimmy about this [Why did you donate] the question is raised "Are People Who Donate to Wikipedia Just Better People in General?" http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/12/wikipedia-donors-better-people… [Wikitube] no, there is not (yet) a project Wikitube. But the WMF does have an account at Youtube. You can find some video's about how to edit. And also videos of users who explain what Wikipedia mean form them in there live. Those are interesting to watch because it gives a face behind the recent changes. http://www.youtube.com/user/WikimediaFoundation === Stats === * Wikimedia Commons has reached 15,000,000 files, 73 days after reaching 14,000,000. * The Low German/Low Saxon Wikipedia has reached 20,000 articles. * The Turkish Wikipedia has reached 200,000 articles * The Tamil Wikipedia has reached 50,000 articles. * The Romanian Wikibooks has reached 500 book modules. [Wikiquote books and booklovers] - The Italian Wikiquote continues its expansion on the main booklovers social network of Italy: its group on aNobii has 1300+ members (one of the biggest groups). ISBNs of quoted books were extracted from it, en, fr.quote and experimentally added. The Italian has about 4500 ISBNs and 10 thousands books identified in total, English and French about 2500 ISBNs. Italian seems to quote all the books that English does, plus many more; a third of fr.quote's books are quoted also on en and it. http://www.anobii.com/groups/0105f4f6d9a205e8a9/ -- IT Wikiquote at a social network for booklovers http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikiquote-l/2012-December/000146.html === Other news === [New Gopher server] At this new Gopher-hole you can find a list of Wikipedia articles created last month/week/day with most users contributing to article within the same period. Updated hourly. gopher://gopher.conus.info/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/overbiteff/ -- add support for Gopher to FireFox [WMF shop] since a while there is WMF webshop. You can buy a T-shirt and other clothing, stickers and pins and quality bags. Shipment is from the US but the are offering a flat fee of $10 for the shipping costs to all destinations. Nevertheless if you only wanted to buy a key-chain it gets very expensive. When a local wikimeet is coming up you could do a group order and divide the costs that way. http://shop.wikimedia.org/ === Did you know ... === ... that the edits of experts make an article harder to read? "The reason is clear, they say: articles on difficult topics are written by experts who sacrifice readability for accuracy and that is compounded as other experts weigh in with further accuracy-obsessed edits that remove simplifications, generalisations or intuitive explanations that might have served to aid readability." http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/12/study-the-expert-editors-of-wikipedia-make… === Quote === "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish" -- Last message of the dolphins to the people of Earth before leaving it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_Long,_and_Thanks_for_All_the_Fish /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Editor(s): Walter, Nemo Corrector(s): Thanks to: Amgine, Jeblad, hoo Sources-Attributions:Jeblad,Lydia Pintscher Support: Website: http://wikizine.blogspot.com Gopher: is down and probably will not come back Contact: [[meta:user:Walter]] //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //// /// //// Happy new-year, good fortune and health in MMXIII /// //// /// //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Wikizine.org makes no guarantee of accuracy, validity and especially but not limited to, correct grammar and spelling. 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