Translation between wikis currently exists as a largely pulling
paradigm: Someone on the target wiki finds an article in another
language (English for example) and then pulls it to their language
These days Google and other translate tools are good enough to use as
the starting basis for an translated article, and we can consider how
we make use of them in an active way. What is largely a "pull"
paradigm can also be a "push" paradigm - we can use translation tools
to "push" articles to other wikis.
If there are issues, they can be overcome. The fact of the matter is
that the vast majority of articles in English can be "pushed" over to
other languages, and fill a need for those topics in those languages.
Our 2nd annual Wiki-Conference NYC will be held over the weekend of
August 28-29 2010, hosted by ITP at NYU's Tisch School of the Arts,
and also supported by Free Culture @ NYU and Wikimedia New York City.
Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Sue Gardner will be giving a
keynote, and we will also have a second keynote speaker TBA.
There's still plenty of time to join a panel, or to propose a
lightning talk or an open space session.
Register for the Wiki-Conference here:
Wikimedia New York City
Our new member is Huib Laurens (meta:User:Huib). His main role is to
help us in keeping up to date archives of our mailing list  and
other technical things. However, LangCom doesn't have strictly divided
roles, which means that Huib is a also a full member of LangCom, which
includes decision making, too.
 - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee/Archives
DISCLAIMER: this is a delicate issue that could easily generate a flame. So
please everybody presume the good faith and stay on topic :-)
I don't really know if this issue as been discussed in earlier threads (I
subscribed to this list after Gdansk and the only pertinent thing I found is
but I would like to know if there are updates about the possibility for
Middle East citizens to have permissions to enter Israel for Wikimania 2011.
I guess this type of permission is not easy to obtain (I'm thinking for
example about citizens of Syria, West Bank or Iran) and I also remember a
discussion in Gdansk (with Jan Bart, just after the World Cup Final :-( )
about some initiatives we could support to increase participation. Are there
any news or updates? Could I find some information somewhere?
Thank you in advance.
The relocation process took more than we anticipated, so it now looks
like the situation is going to continue throughout the day today.
Towards the afternoon/evening various wikis are going to be gradually
restored to normal.
On 12/08/10 22:27, Robert Stojnic wrote:
> Hi all,
> We are currently relocating some servers internally in the datacenter.
> As a consequence, search snippets, "did you mean..." and interwiki
> search are going to be turned off during this time, and only bare
> results shown. This will affect all WMF wikis. I expect, if everything
> goes well, that in around 4-5h things are going to go back to normal.
> Cheers, Robert
forwarding because this hits more people than just wikitech-l
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robert Stojnic <rainmansr(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikitech-l] relocating search servers
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
We are currently relocating some servers internally in the datacenter.
As a consequence, search snippets, "did you mean..." and interwiki
search are going to be turned off during this time, and only bare
results shown. This will affect all WMF wikis. I expect, if everything
goes well, that in around 4-5h things are going to go back to normal.
Wikitech-l mailing list
Huib "Abigor" Laurens
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
I'd like to have a meeting on IRC this week to discuss the 2010-2011
annual appeal/fundraiser. This will be an "anyone is welcome" type
meeting, open to the broad community. During this, Zack Exley and I
will take you through our inital thoughts about the fundraiser and its
organization, and ask you to join us in a discussion about the
(massive) role of volunteers and chapters in this year's fundraiser.
Because of the vagaries of time zones, scheduling live meetings is
hard. So, we'll have a couple of potential times, and we'll log and
post the meeting for anyone who wasn't able to make it.
The meetings will be held Thursday, 12 August at 23:00 UTC (16:00 PDT)
and Friday, 13 August at 16:30 UTC (09:30 PDT) in the #wikimedia-
fundraising channel on the freenode network on IRC (irc://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-fundraising
). You can access this using freenode's webclient, which is available
at http://webchat.freenode.net/ or by using your favorite IRC client.
Hope to see you there!
Head of Reader Relations
Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in
the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
A Committee to Deal with Content Issues
Wikipedia does not seem to have any formal arbitration committee that deals
with content. I have been involved in a number of cases in which such a
committee would be exceedingly useful ( ADHD, Rorschach test, abortion,
etc.). Currently I am involved in a dispute regarding the interpretation of
the literature regarding Transcendental Meditation (TM) which has been going
on for years. There are about 5 editors who admit to being practitioner of
TM and only or mainly edit the subject area of TM. They have been using
Wikipedia to promote this organization / religion. As they have been
reasonably polite no actions were taken during the recent Arbitration case
and ArbCom stated that it does not feel they should / are able to address
An RfC was filled with a couple of comments however the TMers felt that the
comments were uninformed, insufficiently numerous, and therefore not
relevant. An RfC is also not binding and has no method for enforcement.
These editors have been taking turns reverting changes they disagree with.
The question is should Wikipedia be written by those who are interested in
writing a well referenced work of knowledge or by special interests who wish
to push a particular point of view. Wikipedia currently does not have an
effective method to deal with these types of special interest groups who are
set on promotion or advertising. If Wikipedia is ever going to become well
respected by academia it needs effective measures to deal with these sort of
MD, CCFP-EM, B.Sc.
On 8/11/10, Mathias Schindler <mathias.schindler(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Abbas Mahmoud <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Not only the Middle East, but the Muslim population at large will not dare
>> step into Israeli soil.
> Hey, isn't this already progress when they acknowledge the soil to be Israeli? :)
It is difficult to avoid politics, but we need to try. I am not sure
if a sarcastic or aggressive tone will be of help within the
discussion. Andrea was correct when he expressed his fears of posting
his email :)
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