Wikimedia-l June 2010

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[Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against "copyleft"
by David Gerard 29 Jun '10

29 Jun '10

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/ascap-assails-free-culture-digital… They're actually gathering money to fight free content. We may need to do something about this. - d.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Serbia billboard campaign
by Milos Rancic 28 Jun '10

28 Jun '10

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Now we have Jimmy's and Stallman's billboards all over Belgrade. I'll > send photos ASAP. For now, there are their images at > http://likilik.org/ > http://likilink.org/

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Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status
by Andre Engels 28 Jun '10

28 Jun '10

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jeffrey Peters <17peters(a)cardinalmail.cua.edu> wrote: > Austin, > > Maybe you didn't realize but I am the top organizer of Wikiversity. Gerard's > call for political activism against that organization is completely > unacceptable and harms projects like my own that have to deal with large > institutions and the rest. > > If you want to claim that I should be moderated, then push that fringe > political view as you just did, then there is something very wrong here. > Your statements about the legality have been 100% wrong, to an embarrassing > extent. These two combined represent a very major problem. > > The Foundation-l is for Foundation discussion, and not for pushing fringe > views that would embarrass our projects. You do realize that, right? > Moderators serve only as long as they enforce that, and are you going to > demonstrate in the above that you will be doing 100% opposite of your job? > > Sincerely, > Jeffrey Peters > aka Ottava Rima > 1. My name is André, not Austin 2. The first one to call for moderation was you 3. If copyleft is embarassing wikiversity, then I propose you leave the Wikimedia Foundation, because it happens to be one of our principles 4. I did not abuse my moderator status, i donáf [pyojh[- n[ ¾»bnyttfg -- André Engels, andreengels(a)gmail.com

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Re: [Foundation-l] Your abuse of moderator status
by WJhonson＠aol.com 28 Jun '10

28 Jun '10

In a message dated 6/27/2010 12:45:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com writes: On 27 June 2010 20:42, William Pietri <william(a)scissor.com> wrote: > Given that this is recurring drama-creating behavior, perhaps we can > move on to the "ignore" stage of WP:RBI. On enwiki, we did that ages ago. I don't believe he is blocked on Wikiversity (yet). >> -------------- Challenging the use of the word "ages" above. _http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User: Ottava+Rima_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:…) To me ages implies a term longer than six months. An interesting and verbose block log. Unsolicited and probably unwanted advice, possibly from a person who has a similar personality -- I have learned to never, ever, ever look at my Watchlist. I make my changes, and move on, and never look back. Thus, I never weep over the massacre made on my beautiful workmanship. Weeping does not turn into gnashing of teeth, and does not proceed into daggers of vengeance, then to the remorse caused by unwanted punishment. Interesting that a recent mod (prior to banning) was to Ada Lovelace. I *just yesterday*, believe it or don't, posted an update on Ada's pre-modern ancestry to the gen-med list. / soc.gen.med group. Odd co-incidence. Makes me wonder what cosmic significance I'm supposed to draw here. Will "Co-incidentally connected" Johnson

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[Foundation-l] Fwd: Foundation-l
by Austin Hair 28 Jun '10

28 Jun '10

Andre, I think you and I are doomed to be forever confused with each other. Austin ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jeffrey Peters <17peters(a)cardinalmail.cua.edu> Date: Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 4:45 PM Subject: Foundation-l To: adhair(a)gmail.com Dear Andre, I already removed my access from foundation-l and filed an official protest as the lead operator at Wikiversity against political advocacy, the promotion of piracy that undermines our credibility, and your inability to appropriately moderate. Your actions and behavior, as others on that list, are shameful. Sincerely, Jeffrey Peters aka Ottava Rima

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[Foundation-l] Gathering for chapters and potential chapters at Wikimania
by Thomas Dalton 27 Jun '10

27 Jun '10

It has been proposed that people from chapters and people wanting to form chapters get together at Wikimania in order to share experiences and offer each other advice. I am trying to organise such a gathering. I'm currently proposing an informal gathering during the Saturday morning coffee break. If you would be interested in attending such a gathering (either at that time or another time), please add your name to this page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Chapter_Gathering If there is sufficient interest, I will contact that Wikimania organisers and try to get us a room. Since we don't have much time before Wikimania starts, please add your names quickly!

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[Foundation-l] encouraging women's participation
by phoebe ayers 27 Jun '10

27 Jun '10

There's been discussion of the gender gap among Wikimedia editors on and off for many years now, and it's a focus of the strategic planning process. This is a part of a larger issue of how to get members of underrepresented groups to edit more, to combat system bias on all fronts. (Or, simply how to get more people to edit regardless). I just read this article: "International Collaboration for Women in IT: How to Avoid Reinventing the Wheel" http://iisit.org/Vol7/IISITv7p329-338Craig734.pdf which is about how the ACM (Association for Computing Machinery, an international academic computing membership organization) has a women's interest group -- ACM-W -- which is tasked with increasing women's participation in IT -- an equally daunting task. What's mostly interesting about this article is it describes how ACM-W has an ambassador program, with individuals tasked with increasing participation in various countries. In turn these ambassadors report that one size doesn't fit all -- increasing women's participation in IT depends on a variety of factors, including the general status of women's education in a country, and that the techniques one uses to encourage female participation might vary quite a bit depending on other cultural factors. Of course this is not an earth-shattering conclusion, but it's also clearly applicable to Wikimedia. I haven't seen many papers that take an explicitly international view to the issue of women in IT, so I thought it was interesting. -- phoebe -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers <at> gmail.com *

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Re: [Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against "copyleft"
by WJhonson＠aol.com 26 Jun '10

26 Jun '10

In a message dated 6/25/2010 6:58:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 17peters(a)cardinalmail.cua.edu writes: > If you want to know my fair use credentials and my involvement, I was one > of > the people involved in the fringe of one of the most important internet > fair > use court cases of the modern era, but I was lucky enough to not have any > of > my reproductions of newspaper articles be chosen as part of the lawsuit, > so > I was able to get out of the mess that ensued. However, I had the ability > to, when young, witness the battle of fair use between the various groups > first hand. >> --------------------------- Could you please provide the full citation? I would like to read about this case. Thanks Will

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Re: [Foundation-l] ASCAP comes out against "copyleft"
by WJhonson＠aol.com 26 Jun '10

26 Jun '10

In a message dated 6/25/2010 3:55:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 17peters(a)cardinalmail.cua.edu writes: > Do I have to request your termination for abuse of this list? >> Why do I envision the Red Queen and the White Queen when I read that remark? David Gerard cut off your own head! Do it immediately! But on a lighter note. Whether or not the owner/author/creator/inventor of CC advocates piracy or doesn't, is not material at all to what the *contributors* to CC are actually doing. As far as "music lyrics", since when can you actually buy the lyrics to any piece of music, anywhere, ever, at any time, whatsover? You BUY sheet music, or a song book, or a performance. I've never, in my entire life, seen "lyrics" for sale by themself. So please provide a place where they are. Otherwise you cannot protect the profit from something from which there is no profit and was never intended to be. Next caller! Will "the slammer" Johnson

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[Foundation-l] Heads up - doing some banner testing
by Philippe Beaudette 26 Jun '10

26 Jun '10

Hi folks, Just wanted to send you a heads up that we're going to be doing a little bit of banner testing for a very brief period on the English Wikipedia sometime soon. For about a 24 hour period, there will be banners appearing to a small segment of users that direct users to a couple of different sets of questions for a very quick informal survey. This is primarily a test of the medium; it's not a message test. We're trying learn something about people who click on our banners and/ or answer the questionnaire, not specifically testing the message that gets them there. Our hope is that this will be minimally intrusive, since it will only run for one day. The idea is to maximize the targeting of the usage of this tool. The questions on the survey will be in a few broad buckets. We're asking about: - readership (how often?) - editing frequency (for logged in users only) - Foundation knowledge (did you know it's a non-profit? what do you think the primary income source is?) - Very basic demographics (age, sex). We will most likely be doing more testing in the future, but for now these are the base questions. We know it's not a scientific polling or sampling, but the goal is to extrapolate some data from what we find out here. pb ____________________ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation philippe(a)wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

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