On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Now we have Jimmy's and Stallman's billboards all over Belgrade. I'll
> send photos ASAP. For now, there are their images at
> http://likilik.org/
>
http://likilink.org/
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jeffrey Peters
<17peters(a)cardinalmail.cua.edu> wrote:
> Austin,
>
> Maybe you didn't realize but I am the top organizer of Wikiversity. Gerard's
> call for political activism against that organization is completely
> unacceptable and harms projects like my own that have to deal with large
> institutions and the rest.
>
> If you want to claim that I should be moderated, then push that fringe
> political view as you just did, then there is something very wrong here.
> Your statements about the legality have been 100% wrong, to an embarrassing
> extent. These two combined represent a very major problem.
>
> The Foundation-l is for Foundation discussion, and not for pushing fringe
> views that would embarrass our projects. You do realize that, right?
> Moderators serve only as long as they enforce that, and are you going to
> demonstrate in the above that you will be doing 100% opposite of your job?
>
> Sincerely,
> Jeffrey Peters
> aka Ottava Rima
>
1. My name is André, not Austin
2. The first one to call for moderation was you
3. If copyleft is embarassing wikiversity, then I propose you leave
the Wikimedia Foundation, because it happens to be one of our
principles
4. I did not abuse my moderator status, i donáf [pyojh[- n[ ¾»bnyttfg
--
André Engels, andreengels(a)gmail.com
In a message dated 6/27/2010 12:45:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com writes:
On 27 June 2010 20:42, William Pietri <william(a)scissor.com> wrote:
> Given that this is recurring drama-creating behavior, perhaps we can
> move on to the "ignore" stage of WP:RBI.
On enwiki, we did that ages ago. I don't believe he is blocked on
Wikiversity (yet). >>
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Challenging the use of the word "ages" above.
_http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:
Ottava+Rima_
(http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:…)
To me ages implies a term longer than six months.
An interesting and verbose block log.
Unsolicited and probably unwanted advice, possibly from a person who has a
similar personality -- I have learned to never, ever, ever look at my
Watchlist.
I make my changes, and move on, and never look back. Thus, I never weep
over the massacre made on my beautiful workmanship. Weeping does not turn
into gnashing of teeth, and does not proceed into daggers of vengeance, then
to the remorse caused by unwanted punishment.
Interesting that a recent mod (prior to banning) was to Ada Lovelace. I
*just yesterday*, believe it or don't, posted an update on Ada's pre-modern
ancestry to the gen-med list. / soc.gen.med group.
Odd co-incidence. Makes me wonder what cosmic significance I'm supposed to
draw here.
Will "Co-incidentally connected" Johnson
Andre, I think you and I are doomed to be forever confused with each other.
Austin
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jeffrey Peters <17peters(a)cardinalmail.cua.edu>
Date: Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 4:45 PM
Subject: Foundation-l
To: adhair(a)gmail.com
Dear Andre,
I already removed my access from foundation-l and filed an official
protest as the lead operator at Wikiversity against political
advocacy, the promotion of piracy that undermines our credibility, and
your inability to appropriately moderate.
Your actions and behavior, as others on that list, are shameful.
Sincerely,
Jeffrey Peters
aka Ottava Rima
It has been proposed that people from chapters and people wanting to
form chapters get together at Wikimania in order to share experiences
and offer each other advice. I am trying to organise such a gathering.
I'm currently proposing an informal gathering during the Saturday
morning coffee break. If you would be interested in attending such a
gathering (either at that time or another time), please add your name
to this page:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Chapter_Gathering
If there is sufficient interest, I will contact that Wikimania
organisers and try to get us a room. Since we don't have much time
before Wikimania starts, please add your names quickly!
There's been discussion of the gender gap among Wikimedia editors on
and off for many years now, and it's a focus of the strategic planning
process. This is a part of a larger issue of how to get members of
underrepresented groups to edit more, to combat system bias on all
fronts. (Or, simply how to get more people to edit regardless).
I just read this article:
"International Collaboration for Women in IT: How to Avoid Reinventing
the Wheel"
http://iisit.org/Vol7/IISITv7p329-338Craig734.pdf
which is about how the ACM (Association for Computing Machinery, an
international academic computing membership organization) has a
women's interest group -- ACM-W -- which is tasked with increasing
women's participation in IT -- an equally daunting task. What's mostly
interesting about this article is it describes how ACM-W has an
ambassador program, with individuals tasked with increasing
participation in various countries. In turn these ambassadors report
that one size doesn't fit all -- increasing women's participation in
IT depends on a variety of factors, including the general status of
women's education in a country, and that the techniques one uses to
encourage female participation might vary quite a bit depending on
other cultural factors.
Of course this is not an earth-shattering conclusion, but it's also
clearly applicable to Wikimedia. I haven't seen many papers that take
an explicitly international view to the issue of women in IT, so I
thought it was interesting.
-- phoebe
--
* I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers
<at> gmail.com *
In a message dated 6/25/2010 6:58:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
17peters(a)cardinalmail.cua.edu writes:
> If you want to know my fair use credentials and my involvement, I was one
> of
> the people involved in the fringe of one of the most important internet
> fair
> use court cases of the modern era, but I was lucky enough to not have any
> of
> my reproductions of newspaper articles be chosen as part of the lawsuit,
> so
> I was able to get out of the mess that ensued. However, I had the ability
> to, when young, witness the battle of fair use between the various groups
> first hand. >>
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Could you please provide the full citation? I would like to read about
this case.
Thanks
Will
In a message dated 6/25/2010 3:55:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
17peters(a)cardinalmail.cua.edu writes:
> Do I have to request your termination for abuse of this list? >>
Why do I envision the Red Queen and the White Queen when I read that
remark?
David Gerard cut off your own head! Do it immediately!
But on a lighter note.
Whether or not the owner/author/creator/inventor of CC advocates piracy or
doesn't, is not material at all to what the *contributors* to CC are
actually doing.
As far as "music lyrics", since when can you actually buy the lyrics to any
piece of music, anywhere, ever, at any time, whatsover?
You BUY sheet music, or a song book, or a performance.
I've never, in my entire life, seen "lyrics" for sale by themself.
So please provide a place where they are. Otherwise you cannot protect the
profit from something from which there is no profit and was never intended
to be.
Next caller!
Will "the slammer" Johnson
Hi folks,
Just wanted to send you a heads up that we're going to be doing a
little bit of banner testing for a very brief period on the English
Wikipedia sometime soon. For about a 24 hour period, there will be
banners appearing to a small segment of users that direct users to a
couple of different sets of questions for a very quick informal survey.
This is primarily a test of the medium; it's not a message test.
We're trying learn something about people who click on our banners and/
or answer the questionnaire, not specifically testing the message that
gets them there.
Our hope is that this will be minimally intrusive, since it will only
run for one day. The idea is to maximize the targeting of the usage
of this tool.
The questions on the survey will be in a few broad buckets. We're
asking about:
- readership (how often?)
- editing frequency (for logged in users only)
- Foundation knowledge (did you know it's a non-profit? what do you
think the primary income source is?)
- Very basic demographics (age, sex).
We will most likely be doing more testing in the future, but for now
these are the base questions. We know it's not a scientific polling
or sampling, but the goal is to extrapolate some data from what we
find out here.
pb
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