Wikimedia-l June 2010

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcing new Chief Global DevelopmentOfficer and new Chief Community Officer
by susanpgardner＠gmail.com 03 Jun '10

03 Jun '10

Canadians are good for Wikimedia because we have a, uh, healthy sensitivity to American cultural dominance. When Barry and I were kids, our prime minister famously characterized Canada as a mouse in bed with an elephant -- no matter how friendly the elephant is, you're affected by every twitch and grunt ;-) I'm in Canada right now, speaking with librarians :-) ------Original Message------ From: Cycon Office Systems Sender: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org ReplyTo: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcing new Chief Global DevelopmentOfficer and new Chief Community Officer Sent: 3 Jun 2010 8:15 AM More Canadians to the staff?! I tought we already talk about that!!! Good luck :) Itzik Edri | T: +972.54.5878078 | itzik(a)infra.co.il | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/itzike>| Twitter<http://www.twitter.com/itzike> | Flickr <http://www.flickr.com/itzike> | Linkedin<http://il.linkedin.com/in/itzikedri%20> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Sue Gardner <sgardner(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi folks, > > Forwarding from the announce list, since it does not yet auto-forward :-) > > Thanks, > Sue > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Sue Gardner <sgardner(a)wikimedia.org> > Date: 2 June 2010 19:08 > Subject: Announcing new Chief Global Development Officer and new Chief > Community Officer > To: WikimediaAnnounce-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Hi folks, > > I am really happy to announce two important new Wikimedia Foundation > hires. Zack Exley will be Wikimedia's new Chief Community Officer, > and Barry Newstead will be our Chief Global Development Officer. Both > will start just before Wikimania, and will join us in Gdansk. > > There will be a press release going out tomorrow, but the news isn't > confidential: please feel free to tell whoever you like. > > Zack Exley will be our new Chief Community Officer. Zack joins > Wikimedia from the Chicago-based firm Thoughtworks where he oversaw > strategy and technology projects for organizations like Obama For > America, Rock the Vote, and Global Zero. > > Zack has a long history of mobilizing people and facilitating them > reaching their goals. During the nineties, he worked as a labour > organizer and software developer. In 2002, he joined MoveOn.org as > director of organizing, where he ran mobilization and fundraising > campaigns – and in the same period, helped the Howard Dean campaign > with its online fundraising. Zack left MoveOn.org to become online > communications and organizing director for the 2004 Kerry-Edwards U.S. > presidential campaign, where he ran the team that raised $125 million > online for Kerry, and also oversaw online-to-offline organizing > efforts responsible for mobilizing hundreds of thousands of field > volunteers. In 2005, he led internet strategy and online fundraising > for the UK Labour Party's 2005 election campaign, and since 2005 he > has acted as a senior strategist and advisor helping many > mission-driven organizations advance their fundraising and > mobilization goals, including the American Civil Liberties Union, > Amnesty International, the National Association for the Advancement of > Colored People (NAACP), the International Rescue Committee and > Greenpeace USA. > > Zack grew up in Connecticut and has also lived in Kenya, China and the > United Kingdom. He has an BA in Economics from the University of > Massachusetts. > > As Chief Community Officer, Zack will be responsible for developing > the Wikimedia Found Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcing new Chief Global DevelopmentOfficer and new Chief Community Officer
by susanpgardner＠gmail.com 03 Jun '10

03 Jun '10

It's Tranna. You got me. *sigh* ------Original Message------ From: George Herbert To: Sue Gardner GMail To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcing new Chief Global DevelopmentOfficer and new Chief Community Officer Sent: 3 Jun 2010 12:46 PM On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:37 AM, <susanpgardner(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Terrified. For that reason, I actually did not unveil my country-of-origin to the Board until a few weeks ago. That is one of Canadians' special skills: we can walk amongst Americans, and they are completely unaware :-) That's not true, many Americans know the correct code words to determine if you're from up north, eh. How do you pronounce Toronto? 8-) -- -george william herbert george.herbert(a)gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcing new Chief Global DevelopmentOfficer and new Chief Community Officer
by susanpgardner＠gmail.com 03 Jun '10

03 Jun '10

Hi Phoebe, You're right about the overlap -- there isn't a sharp clear line between the two roles, which I may live to regret :-) But basically, blur is unavoidable in our context. When I worked in an organization that was very large and very stable, the right way to approach hiring was (frankly) to be quite rigid about roles-and-responsibilities. You needed to be, because the organization was so complex, and needed to operate at scale -- so clarity mattered, a lot. The Wikimedia Foundation, by contrast, is young and growing, and what we require most strongly is intellectual curiosity and flexibility. We know that roles-and-responsibilities will change over time -- they'll have to, we are evolving. And so in that context you want to hire people who are smart and adaptable and comfortable with ambiguity. So yes, there's quite a bit of blur. But I think both Zack and Barry are game for that, and I think they will each bring real value in quite different ways. And we'll evolve the roles as we go :-) Thanks, Sue ------Original Message------ From: phoebe ayers Sender: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org ReplyTo: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Announcing new Chief Global DevelopmentOfficer and new Chief Community Officer Sent: 2 Jun 2010 10:40 PM > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Sue Gardner <sgardner(a)wikimedia.org> > Date: 2 June 2010 19:08 > Subject: Announcing new Chief Global Development Officer and new Chief > Community Officer > To: WikimediaAnnounce-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Hi folks, > > I am really happy to announce two important new Wikimedia Foundation > hires. Zack Exley will be Wikimedia's new Chief Community Officer, > and Barry Newstead will be our Chief Global Development Officer. Both > will start just before Wikimania, and will join us in Gdansk. Congratulations to both Zack and Barry! Exciting indeed. I realize these roles will be formed as they are taken on, but it seems that there is quite a bit of (intentional?) overlap. I am curious how you see that working... both roles seem to involve supporting & growing the communit(ies), perhaps in new ways. There are lots of questions that I have regarding these job descriptions too -- what does supporting the chapters mean? What does supporting the reader community mean? And so on :) Also as I'm sure you're aware it's definitely time to update http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Org_Chart_Without_Names.png ! (from [[wmf:staff]] -- Phoebe _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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[Foundation-l] Removal of material for which there is a claim of copyright infringement.
by James Heilman 03 Jun '10

03 Jun '10

A few months ago an example of the Rey-Osterrieth Complex Figure was deleted. This was done by a commons admin and the only note left was this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Rey-osterreith_example.… agree that it would be great for those following up to have more information about who submitted the request and what the avenues to dispute it are. Mike BTW helped get this image returned. There are people and organization who try to suppress information in the public domain. Attempts were made to have a pair of intersecting pentagons removed as seen here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:InterlockingPentagons.svg Wikipedians are not free from legal action either and if action are brought against you you maybe required to find your own legal representation. I spend nearly a year dealing with complaints regarding my involvement with the Rorschach test. Thankfully I have legal insurance and it ended up costing me personally only about a thousand $ and a few nights of little sleep :-). -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, B.Sc.

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[Foundation-l] Office action
by Klaus Graf 03 Jun '10

03 Jun '10

Can we please have a page on meta on take down notices and possible reactions? I only found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Office_actions I think that WMF has the duty to inform the communities in a general way what can be done afterwards a take down. Regarding the Munich logo mentioned by me the problem has been solved in 2008: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:TU_Muenchen_Logo.svg No latin in this message ;-) Klaus Graf

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[Foundation-l] Subscription to the Wikimedia Announcements list for foundation-l
by James Alexander 03 Jun '10

03 Jun '10

Sending this separately so it isn't in the hiring announcement thread :) Per Ignore All Rules (which I guess doesn't really exist here so I'm ignoring it's absence to) I went ahead and subscribed foundation-l to WikimediaAnnouncements-l . So assuming the list admins are getting a "click here to confirm email" that was from me. James Alexander james.alexander(a)rochester.edu jamesofur(a)gmail.com

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[Foundation-l] Office action
by Klaus Graf 02 Jun '10

02 Jun '10

For me there is no reason to believe that Mr. Godwin is a good lawyer. If he receives a formal (blah-blah) correct take-down-notice he will take OFFICE ACTION. It was clearly un-lawful to take down the TU Munich logo which isn't protectable according German copyright law but WMF has done so. It is a shame that WMF hasn't a policy of TRANSPARENCY regarding office actions. The right of the community to get all information cannot be overruled by Mr. Godwin's personal opinions about secret things. If WMF or it's god-like counsel (who wasn't able to accept critics since I am reading this list) has taken office action - there is no way to appeal. Roma locuta causa finita ... Klaus Graf

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[Foundation-l] Texts deleted on French Wikisource
by Yann Forget 02 Jun '10

02 Jun '10

Hello, In the beginning of March 2010, a few hundreds files have been deleted on the French Wikisource following a request from Gallimard, a leading French publisher. [1] The Wikimedia Foundation received a request from Editions Gallimard to takedown content from the French Wikisource. This request is based on Editions Gallimard's claim that "Wikisource content in the French language targets the French public, and therefore, under French conflict of laws principles, the copyright law of France applies to this content." They were deleted, according to Mike Godwin, following the Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act [2]. These texts are from a dozen authors, and some are even in the public domain in France. In addition, I receive a personal letter, as "the main editor" of these texts, according to Gallimard. We didn't receive any information from the Wikimedia Foundation, and I know the details only because I have been personally involved. I understand that there is a 15 business days delay after which the material "must be put back up" (cf. Wikipedia) if Gallimard does not file a lawsuit. Now three months later, we didn't receive any information from the Foundation about this, and the texts are still deleted. Many contributors are obviously not very happy, and feel that the Foundation submitted to the pressure of a commercial publisher. Comparing with the National Portrait Gallery affair on Commons, it looks like a double standard was applied. Just a few days before these texts were deleted, I asked Cary what was the official opinion of Wikimedia Foundation about texts which are in the public domain in USA, but not in France. I was told that "the community is entitled to decide by itself". Comments? Regards, Yann [1] http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Demande_des_%C3%A9ditions_Gallimar… [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limita…

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[Foundation-l] French Wikisource
by Klaus Graf 02 Jun '10

02 Jun '10

I cannot see any reason to delete texts of authors who are dead more than 70 years (the Europe-wide copyright term). There is no reason to think that the France-only world-war-rule is compatible with European law. Klaus Graf

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Re: [Foundation-l] Texts deleted on French Wikisource
by WJhonson＠aol.com 02 Jun '10

02 Jun '10

In a message dated 6/2/2010 1:09:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mnemonic(a)gmail.com writes: > Please understand that if you have problems with French copyright law, > there's nothing I can do about that from here in California. >> It's not about what you cannot do, it's about what you CAN do. In light of the evidence that some of the works are in the public domain in France, are you willing to stop taking down the material? That's the real issue here. We can simply repost the material, but it's moot, if you're going to keep taking it down. W.J.

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