Wikimedia-l October 2010

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[Foundation-l] IRC Office Hours with Sue Gardner today (23:00 UTC)
by Steven Walling 27 Oct '10

27 Oct '10

Hi all, Today Wikimedia Foundation Exec. Director Sue Gardner will be in this week's installment of IRC office hours at 23:00 UTC. As usual, the format is completely open, so bring any burning questions you might have to the #wikimedia-office channel on irc.freenode.net. Local times and instructions for accessing the chat, including for those without an IRC client, can be found on Meta at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours. The log of the discussion will be publicly posted on that page afterwards for those cannot attend. Many thanks, -- Steven Walling Wikimedia Foundation Fellow (wikimediafoundation.org)

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Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...
by WJhonson＠aol.com 26 Oct '10

26 Oct '10

In a message dated 10/25/2010 2:12:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wiki-list(a)phizz.demon.co.uk writes: > Superb. I was wondering when someone would actually say this. It is the > point I made right at the beginning of all of this. That the drug pages > should not be reflecting some controversy. >> Nice way to twist what was said. I'm very glad that we report drug controversy. It shows that we are independent and reporting what is actually the state of the matter in society. We are not beholden to the drug companies to report only what they state. That would be a very sorry position if we were. He did not say that he doesn't want to report controversies. Read it again. W

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Re: [Foundation-l] Misplaced Reliance, was Re: Paid editing, was Re: Ban and...
by WJhonson＠aol.com 26 Oct '10

26 Oct '10

In a message dated 10/26/2010 1:14:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, slimvirgin(a)gmail.com writes: > This is the kind of test of our accuracy we really don't want. :) > There you go using that "A" word again. W

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[Foundation-l] Sock Puppets
by Ben McGinnes 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

Hello, Due to a recent server rebuild and resurrection of this email address, I've been rediscovering mailing lists that I had completely forgotten I was subscribed to. This is one. Imagine my amusement at receiving an email from someone called Houston Navarro appearing to leap to the defense of one Gregory Kohs. I'm not sure what the alleged ban was about, but being a Wikimedia list I can guess. No, I really can't be bothered reading back through the archives to see what Mr. Kohs did or didn't do. Anyway, the interesting part of the defensive email (some crap survey link) is the headers, of which these bits are the interesting ones: Return-Path: <thekohser(a)gmail.com> X-Original-To: ben(a)adversary.org Delivered-To: ben(a)adversary.org Received: from localhost (seditious.adversary.org [127.0.0.1]) by seditious.adversary.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF36911C16EC for <ben(a)adversary.org>; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 02:58:13 +1100 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at adversary.org Authentication-Results: seditious.adversary.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass header.i=(a)gmail.com Authentication-Results: seditious.adversary.org (amavisd-new); domainkeys=pass header.from=houstonnavarro(a)gmail.com header.sender=thekohser(a)gmail.com Received: from seditious.adversary.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (seditious.adversary.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id wuvm7C47dYC6 for <ben(a)adversary.org>; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 02:58:07 +1100 (EST) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by seditious.adversary.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D5111C16EA for <ben(a)adversary.org>; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 02:58:04 +1100 (EST) Surprise, surprise ... Houston Navarro is Gregory Kohs. I've kill-filed both his addresses. Regards, Ben -- Ben McGinnes http://www.adversary.org/ Twitter: benmcginnes Systems Administrator, Writer, ICT Consultant Encrypted email preferred - primary OpenPGP/GPG key: 0xA04AE313 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x371AC5BFA04AE313

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[Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 6 Issue 43 – 25 October 2010
by Wikipedia Signpost 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

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[Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: October 25
by Rob Lanphier 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

Hi everyone, This is another update on Pending Changes work. Over the Hack-a-ton weekend, Chad Horohoe and Priyanka Dhanda worked on two of the bigger features for the November 16 Pending Changes update: Bug 25294 - "Reject" button confirmation screen in Pending Changes https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25294 Bug 25289 - Make review load faster by speeding up display of old revisions https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25289 As of today, both of these are now deployed to our test site: http://prototype.wikimedia.org/flaggedrevs Additionally, since the last update, Brandon Harris has made a mockup available of some additional UI changes: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pending_Changes_enwiki_trial/NovemberReleaseD… The full list of issues for the November 16 release is listed here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25293 We're not sure at this point just how much of the list we're going to make it through, but we plan to do additional updates shortly after November 16 with things that we don't get to. Please provide your input in Bugzilla if you're comfortable with that; otherwise, please remark on the feedback page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes/Feedback Rob

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Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing, was Re: Ban and moderate
by WJhonson＠aol.com 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

In a message dated 10/23/2010 3:40:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wiki-list(a)phizz.demon.co.uk writes: > OK this is going to be controversial but have you ever considered taht > maybe you shouldn't have anything on Atorvastatin other than what comes > as the medical advice in the packaging? One cannot provide any useful > advice on whether someone should use the drug or not that should be > between the patient and their doctor. I mean its not as if wikipedia is > an expert pharmacopeia as wikipedia doesn't have experts weighing the > evidence one way or the other, all you can do is mimic the day to day > controversy which of its very nature is going to be conflict ridden. > > If there are still any pretensions of being encyclopaedic here then any > such articles should only be written once the conflict has been resolved. > > Example here is the MMR article from one period in 2004: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MMR_vaccine&oldid=6127791 > > any parent reading that article at that time is highly unlikely to have > opted for the vaccine. Or take the final paragraph here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MMR_vaccine& > oldid=6127791#The_MMR_controversy > > adding every rumour, statement, or innuendo that someone somewhere in > the world might have once said, however wrong, is unencyclopeadic. It is > certainly not without consequences. How many children were made ill by > those paragraphs? > http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/vaxpictures/measles3.htm > http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/vaxpictures/measles1.htm > http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/vaxpictures/mumps1.htm > http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/vaxpictures/mumps2.htm > http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/vaxpictures.htm >> > Why would you make such outrageous statements and expect any result here? On what space have you been slumming where people add "every rumour, statement or innuendo that someone somewhere in the world might have once said"? Please tell me, I'm dying to know. I mean I'm really dying. See I took Atorvastatin and you wouldn't let the project report that the Stanford Medical Journal reported that it causes more damage to the heart than is acceptable. You want us only to report things once the controversy is over, in other words once 25,000 people have gotten sick from salmonella eggs... not just a thousand. No wait, actually after all the lawsuits are over and the people involved are all dead as well. See what outrageously extreme statements do for your cause? Nothing. Now back to our regular program already in progress. W

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[Foundation-l] Fwd: Survey about recent ban
by Austin Hair 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

Just for your information, Houston Navarro has been moderated for being Greg Kohs. Pro tip: bcc'ing a bunch of list subscribers with a fake "[Foundation-l]" subject isn't very sneaky, particularly when the return-path header says "thekohser(a)gmail.com." Greg, the sooner you grow up, the happier the world will be. Austin ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Houston Navarro <houstonnavarro(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:57 PM Subject: [Foundation-l] Survey about recent ban To: What is your opinion about the Foundation-l mailing list moderators' action to ban Gregory Kohs from all mailing list activity? Cast your vote: http://www.vizu.com/poll-vote.html?n=223459 Password = Austin

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[Foundation-l] Suggest great images for WMF design work!
by Jay Walsh 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

Hi everyone, We're working on a number of major design projects here at WMF over the next few months, and as part of that work I'd like to reach out to everyone to take part in suggesting photographs and images from the Commons for inclusion. This request is specifically focussed on suggesting some images that evoke the Wikimedia vision statement, "Imagine a world..." You can find more info and add suggested images/visuals from Commons here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/10_year_images#Image_gallery I hope to make this a more regular process for our creative projects, and hopefully anyone working on presentations or other design projects can use these images to support their work as well. Thanks for your help! -- Jay Walsh Head of Communications WikimediaFoundation.org blog.wikimedia.org +1 (415) 839 6885 x 609, @jansonw

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[Foundation-l] New Wikipedia-like pharmacy website
by Fred Bauder 25 Oct '10

25 Oct '10

http://www.nursinginpractice.com/default.asp?title=NewWikipedia-likepharmac… Pharmapedia http://www.phip.org/index.php?title=Main_Page There's just getting start, but looks promising. They are not copying Wikipedia articles. Fred

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