Wikimedia-l September 2008

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Re: [Foundation-l] New Meta-Wiki logo - Approved?
by David Levy 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

Florence Devouard wrote: > Hello, > > The Foundation is aware that the community logo was PD. It was > done on purpose so that the community could use a logo without > having to request authorization. > > As for the decision to switch meta from the Foundation logo to the > community logo, I think I remember that the vote was announced on > this list, so that the Foundation had the opportunity to jump in. Thanks for the prompt reply! I understand why the community logo is PD, but I'm concerned about its suitability as an official project logo. The vote was announced on this list [ http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2008-August/045572.html ], but no mention of the fact that a PD image was under consideration was made, so this easily could have been overlooked. It certainly is possible that policy has changed, but this definitely has been disallowed in the past. For example, the original Wikiversity logo had to be replaced because the image was available under a free license. Additionally, I recall User:Elian stating that official project logos must receive approval from the public relations department, and I want to make sure that this occurred.

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[Foundation-l] New Meta-Wiki logo - Approved?
by David Levy 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

Following a one-week poll, Meta-Wiki has switched to a different logo. I like the design, but I have a major concern regarding its copyright status. The icon (available at Commons as Image:Wikimedia Community Logo.svg) was released by its creator into the public domain. My understanding is that each project's logo _must_ be copyrighted by the Wikimedia Foundation and _not_ be available under a free license or in the public domain, thereby ensuring that its use is legally restricted to the identification of said project. Anyone can legally use the new Meta-Wiki logo for any purpose without any conditions, so there's nothing to ensure that it will remain a unique identifier and not be utilized in contexts of which the Foundation disapproves. It could legally be used as the logo for a non-Wikimedia wiki (thereby implying affiliation), a pizza shop, a product appearing on store shelves, a pornography website, a racist organization, or anything else. I wonder whether someone from the Foundation's legal department or public relations department was consulted. I'm worried that the idea might have been implemented without the knowledge of those with the authority to approve it. I raised this issue on the poll's talk page [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta_talk:Babel/Metawiki_logo_poll#Copyright…], and thus far, the only response is a claim that I'm mistaken about the requirements. Can anyone shed some light on this?

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[Foundation-l] Massive image loss
by Tim Starling 05 Sep '08

05 Sep '08

This is a triple-crosspost. I suggest you reply to wikitech-l only. A mistake I made caused the loss of 496 full-resolution images from Wikimedia servers. I have recovered as many images as I can, drawing on the following sources: * Squid cache (pmtpa, knams and yaseo) * May 8 backup of some wikis on storage1 * Duplicates with the same signature, found on the same or other wikis That brought the number lost down from about 3000 to the current 496. For the remaining files, I made a copy of their thumbnail directories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/lost-image-thumb-backup/ A list of missing images can be found here: http://noc.wikimedia.org/~tstarling/missing-images-2008-09 If anyone has any ideas about where to find more backup files, I'd be willing to hear them. Otherwise, the community will just have to reupload as many as possible. The technical details were as follows: I fixed a bug in File.php, and without checking what other changes were made to it, deployed the most recent version of the file on the Wikimedia servers, without also updating the rest of MediaWiki. Because FileRepo::$thumbDir was unset, LocalFile::migrateThumbFile() had the effect of deleting the source image for any thumbnail request which reached the backend. I reverted the change after about 20 minutes, following a report on IRC. My sincere apologies. -- Tim Starling

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Re: [Foundation-l] Klassical Chinese
by Crazy Lover 05 Sep '08

05 Sep '08

This is a complete lie. langcom already exists when a classical chinese wikipedia was created. Please see this link: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Classic… c.m.l. ----- Original Message ---- From: Tim Starling <tstarling(a)wikimedia.org> To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2008 3:50:28 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Klassical Chinese Ting Chen wrote: > Hi folks, > > since its creation I wondered why this happend. Why is there a classical > chinese Wikipedia? This language has no native speakers and is not used > by any relitious or official institution as official language. Because at the time it was created, we had not yet given GerardM and his team of rules lawyers the power to decide all wiki creation issues. There was a sentiment that we as a community should make our own decisions on language issues, rather than to delegate it to some standards body who might not have similar interests at heart. And some people held the opinion that while language study and preservation is not our core mission, it'd be nice if it happened anyway, especially if there is no significant cost to the organisation. -- Tim Starling _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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[Foundation-l] Wikimedia UK v2.0
by Thomas Dalton 05 Sep '08

05 Sep '08

Dear Wikimedia community, We are proud and honoured to announce that a plan is in the works to found a new UK chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation. A lot of discussion has already taken place on IRC and we are ready to begin gathering support from the community. If you are interesting in being part of a new UK chapter, in whatever capacity (from sitting on the board, to cheering us on from the sidelines), please head over to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK_v2.0 and let us know. Over the next few days we will gather names and put some finishing touches to the plans. An election will be held for the initial board, who will then oversee the process of founding the company and accepting application to membership. They will then organise an AGM to formally elect a new board to take the chapter forward to begin fundraising and supporting the Wikimedia community in the UK in whatever way we can. This is an exciting time for the UK community and I hope you will all support us in it. Kind regards, Thomas "Tango" Dalton Tom "Cfp" Holden River Tarnell Alex Newman Paul Williams Geni

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[Foundation-l] Tell us about your Wikipedia
by Ziko van Dijk 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

Hello, Would you like to tell us about your Wikipedia? I am afraid that many know only about the Wikipedia he edits himself. At Meta-Wiki you can answer to questions about your Wikipedia language edition and read about others: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tell_us_about_your_Wikipedia Kind regards Ziko -- Ziko van Dijk NL-Silvolde

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[Foundation-l] Ancient Greek (was:Re: STOP DOUBLE STANDARD!!! OR HYPOCRESY!!!)
by Michael Bimmler 03 Sep '08

03 Sep '08

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2008/9/3 Crazy Lover <always_yours.forever(a)yahoo.com>: >> you are wrong, old greek is used as official language of the eastern greek ortodoxe church. its greek is the koine dialect with neologism for new things and concepts. > > I stand corrected. If it's used in the same way as Ecclesiastical > Latin, then we should treat it the same. not replying to anything, but changing the subject - my eyes hurt. Thank you for not using all-caps in your subject lines from now on. Michael -- Michael Bimmler mbimmler(a)gmail.com

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[Foundation-l] Fwd: Welcome Anya Shyrokova, Development Associate, to Wikimedia Foundation
by Erik Moeller 03 Sep '08

03 Sep '08

FYI - Anya joined us last week. :-) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rand Montoya <rmontoya(a)wikimedia.org> Date: 2008/8/26 Subject: Welcome Anya Shyrokova, Development Associate, to Wikimedia Foundation To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription)" <internal-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Hey All-- I'm quite pleased to announce that Anya Shyrokova has joined the Wikimedia Foundation Staff as Development Associate. Anya recently graduated from the University of California, Berkeley with a double major in International Political Economy and Molecular Cell Biology. She also speaks fluent Russian, reads and writes Ukrainian, and maintains an immediate skill in French. Anya will be helping out in fundraising, working in the database as a donor record manager and with the Major Gifts team on prospecting and major gift appeals. Welcome Anya! -Rand -- Rand Montoya Head of Community Giving Wikimedia Foundation www.wikimedia.org Email: rand(a)wikimedia.org

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[Foundation-l] The Wikimania of my dreams
by Delphine Ménard 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

I woudl like to dedicate this thread to the Wikimania of your dreams. No argument, no debate, just ideas, a giant brainstorming of what the Wikimania of your dreams would be. Please throw your stuff in, and try to make it only positive things (ie.write "something that's green" rather than "something that's not blue or red".) here is the Wikimania of my dreams: -It would be in a city easy to reach, with a big airport and cheap flights incoming because it's a huge hub, or it would be next door (Frankfurt airport ;-) ) - It would be in a top-notch conference facility, with tons of plugs everywhere, air conditionned if needed, modular conference rooms, all in one place and close to the accommodation building (a mix of Cambridge, Alexandria for the conference facility, Taipei and Frankfurt for access). - It would have a great outdoor and indoor community area, with wifi that works all the time, with comfy couches as well as ground mats for the yoga-types, with coffee, cookies, juices and fresh water available at all times. (a mix of Frankfurt and Taipei) - It would have all the accommodation in one place, close to the conference grounds, or even actually _on_ the conference grounds, and it would be cheap but practical, clean and modern accommodation, with different possibilities - share a room, not share a room, share a dorm etc. (a mix of Frankfurt and Taipei) -It would have an amazing range of food for lunches, which would be served in a big room where annoucements and meetings can take place (a mix of Taipei and Cambridge). - It would take place in a really "wow" place so that we get speakers to *want to come* to speak (Harvard or Bibliotheca Alexandrina) - It would be close to sightseeing stuff for social evenings as "discovery trips". - It would have an amazing party location and an amazing party with dancers with rotating hat-thingies (just like Alexandria!) - It would host up to 500 people, not more, so I can get to meet almost all of them. :-) - And finally, to steal Sj's idea, it would have a giant rotating Wikipedia globe that people could get into and make roll around like a hamster wheel, just for the fun of it. Cheers, Delphine -- ~notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Your emails will get lost. Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org

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[Foundation-l] Wikimedia UK v2.0
by Thomas Dalton 01 Sep '08

01 Sep '08

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