English -> English dump
> Because myself and others have been frustrated by the lack of good
> stats on the number of active editors on the English Wikipedia, I have
> compiled some stats on the editing frequency on enwiki:
No worries: in only 176 days from now the English dump will be ready and I
can run wikistats scripts on it.
It just started 52 days ago, so let us be patient for a while ;)
http://www.infodisiac.com/cgi-bin/WikimediaDownload.pl
Nice stats though!
Erik Zachte
Because myself and others have been frustrated by the lack of good
stats on the number of active editors on the English Wikipedia, I have
compiled some stats on the editing frequency on enwiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editing_frequency
I am going to forgo any extensive analysis for now. But I will say
that these trends mostly mirror trends seen elsewhere, with a peak in
early 2007 followed by a decline and then leveling out as we go
towards the present.
In September, 130,000 registered users and 525,000 anons made at least
one edit to an article. If you define "active editors" as those
making at least 20 article edits per month then 14000 registered users
and 6000 anons met that threshold in September.
-Robert Rohde
Only if the information is not a pack of lies. Which on a smaller wiki it probably will be. And, as I pointed out 4 posts ago, it's more valuable for Mr Botswana in English anyway.
CM
Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 00:07:24 +0100
From: gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com
To: moreschiwikiman(a)hotmail.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] 80% of our projects are failing
Hoi,
You did not get my point. The point is that inform ation in a native language is valuable by objective standards.
Thanks,
Gerard
2008/12/1 Christiano Moreschi <moreschiwikiman(a)hotmail.co.uk>
Have you forgotten that these are WIKIS we are talking about? It's not just a matter of translation: the technology isn't there to do it automatically and we don't have the manpower do it manually. Even if the technology were there, it's a WIKI. Unlike your friend's translations, our content can drastically deteriorate and become useless overnight if nobody's watching it.
CM
Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:58:54 +0100
> From: gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com
> To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] 80% of our projects are failing
>
> Hoi,
> EMC2 is a company who sells storage solutions to big companies. I was at a
> presentation of their documentation manager. He informed his audience that
> the people who buy their products invariably state that they prefer the
> English documentation. They always get the translations as well. The benefit
> to EMC2 is that they sell more products. The translation of their
> documentation adds pennies to the pound in costs, costs that are easily
> offset by the increased sales.
>
> The point is that people understand things better when they are addressed in
> their own language EVEN when they can read the language that is foreign to
> them.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> 2008/11/30 geni <geniice(a)gmail.com>
>
> > 2008/11/30 effe iets anders <effeietsanders(a)gmail.com>:
> > > Because bear in mind, especially in those languages, a complemented work
> > of
> > > human knowledge really adds something. In the large languages, we already
> > > had encyclopediae and dictionaries of good quality. Wikipedia is better
> > > sure, and has improved our lives. But now just imagine that you are
> > living
> > > in Botswana, and on school (if you're lucky) there is very little
> > material
> > > available... and now there is an encyclopedia... In YOUR language!
> >
> > English is an official language of Botswana. Quite a lot of African
> > countries move to English or French for education above a certain
> > level.
> >
> > >Even if
> > > it only contains 1000 articles,
> >
> > ~102 articles currently.
> >
> > > you can already learn a lot from it. You can
> > > improve your knowledge, and increase the odds in competition with the
> > > western world.
> >
> > What is Tswana for mass spectrometry (looking at the translations for
> > that term across European languages is mildly amusing) ? There are
> > large areas where if you don't speak english you can't operate in that
> > area. There is nothing wikimedia can do about this. Highly
> > questionable if we would even want to.
> >
> > This doesn't mean we should give up on many languages but it does mean
> > that we have to accept that the educated people from those countries
> > may not want to use them and there is a significant risk of them
> > becoming POV forks.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > geni
> >
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Dear all,
We are working for a new version of Kiwix, the offline reader wich used for
http://wikipediaondvd.com/ .
This new version don't use a selection of article , is available from the
project : wikibooks, wikipedia, wikiquote, wikisource, wiktionary for all
the languages.
To try :
http://download.kiwix.org/install/ just for windows , Mac and linux will be
make in a few day.
after install you choose downlaod every corpus that you want to consult in
offline.
All the language is not yet finish.
It s a release candidate, so we need what you think about this version.
Cordialement
Martin Pascal
tel : 02 32 40 23 69, fax : 02 32 61 45 26
gsm : 06 13 89 77 32
Ø Because myself and others have been frustrated by the lack of good
Ø stats on the number of active editors on the English Wikipedia, I have
Ø compiled some stats on the editing frequency on enwiki:
No worries: in only 176 days from now the English will be ready and I can
run wikistats scripts on it.
It just started 52 days ago, so let us be patient for a while ;)
http://www.infodisiac.com/cgi-bin/WikimediaDownload.pl
Nice stats though!
Erik Zachte
I'm afraid I do not understand your request - how can we help?
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 4:06 PM, abd aziz muharam <a.aziq0072(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Pleas reply me...
>
>
--
Michael Bimmler
mbimmler(a)gmail.com
hi,
a video showing how immune cells eat parasites [1] attracted quite
some sites to cite an article about medical visualization [2]. when
looking at it i noticed:
* that it is published in a cc-2.5 licensed journal
* that there is a possibility to enter links from facebook, stumble upon, ...
* that there is no link to do make a reference in wiki*
would it make sense that a wikimedia page allows referencing such an
article? the functions of such a page could be:
* enter it in a (not yet existing) references library (bibtex or whatever)
* add it to a portal talk page selected by the user (like medicine)
* add it to project selected by the user (like wpedia, wversity, ...)
imo the advantages would be that on one hand quality may rise through
better citations, on the other hand having a citation library where
researchers in future want to be and need to be.
kr, rupert.
refs:
[1] (http://www.plospathogens.org/article/fetchFirstRepresentation.action?uri=in…)
[2] http://www.plospathogens.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.ppat.10…
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:50:38 +0000
> From: Christiano Moreschi <moreschiwikiman(a)hotmail.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Trouble in Ireland
>
> Amusing. I am strongly reminded of the fights over Macedonia and
> Liancourt Rocks. Except on those occasions nobody had any illusions
> that the participants on all side were any more than puerile time-
> wasters. Just because this lot have greater fluency in the English
> language doesn't mean that they're any more rational.
Thanks for not caring. That doesn't help us get to a solution. :-(
Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com