Nicolas Weeger wrote:
>>I would like to state one more point, finally. Just like all of you, I
>>have never received a single Euro for anything I have done for Wikimedia
>>or its projects. I am doing all this in my spare time, with often very
>>little public appreciation, and the primary goal to help the projects
>>along. I believe that it is of paramount importance that in a volunteer
>>organization, rather than following a strict chain of command, we need
>>to work in a fashion where volunteers feel empowered to make a positive
>>difference.
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>Aren't you being paid by a partner to work on Wikidata?
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>>Erik
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>Regards
>Nicolas Weeger
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Hoi,
The fact is that Erik will be paid when he delivers the software. This
contract is explicitly outside of the Wikimedia Foundation and it has
been from the start. It has been outside of WMF with the prior knowledge
of Jimbo. This is just to make clear that the fact that Erik was willing
to write the Wikidata and Ultimate Wiktionary has nothing to do with the
WMF. The fact that he was willing to do this for so little money would
be the one thing that associates it with the charitable goals of the
Foundation.
I know it is wrong to suggest that Erik gives precendence to the
developement of Wikidata and Ultimate Wiktionary. He has indicated to me
that his position as an officer of the WMF may interfere with his role
as the developer for Wikidata and Ultimate Wiktionary. So to make clear
where his priorities are, he indicated that it would be important for me
to find people who want to take up the work that needs to be done after
the initial work on UW.
I am horrified with the recent events; the two people that have inspired
me most are having a damaging public fight. I love Anthere for the
inspiring talk she gave in Rotterdam, to me it was the single most
inspiring event for me. She spoke about the need for having information
and infrastructure for countries in Afrika and Asia. And UW will help. I
love Erik for the inspiration that he gave me, his ideas on Wikidata
were basic and enabled the idea of Ultimate Wiktionary. The
collaboration with Erik is going well; you may appreciate that for me
the moment for UW to be available to the public cannot come soon enough :)
There are some fundamental differences in the opinions on how to
proceed. My problem is that in essence we all want the same result and
we lose sight of what we aim for. Our aim is that we make good
information free for all. Individuals and companies, volunteers and
professionals can all play a part in that. Essential is that we
cooperate and use algorithms that work for such a diversified group of
people.
Thanks,
GerardM
The international language editions of Wikinews are still in beta, but
some of the other language version have already moved one step closer
to getting out of that state - they got a license. Now... This is not
a good thing.
The Spanish, Serbian and Romanian editions are all licensed under the
GNU FDL, and the Japanese edition is licensed under CC-By. That's due
to the nature of the Japanese law, which, according to some juristic
analysis, doesn't allow to release content into the public domain.
That's not such a big problem - first of all, it might be possible to
relicense the content under CC-By-SA, or simply ask the contributors
to relicense it - since this is a new project, there aren't too many
people to ask.
But, back to the topic. The 2.5 Creative Commons licenses allow to
give the attribution NOT to every author of the article, but to the
whole project - just check 4(b) of
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/legalcode (same applies to
every other CC license).
This allows us to finally license our content under the CC-Wiki
(that's what we could call CC-By-SA 2.5) license - now the basic
questions are:
1) Do we need to license it right now?
2) Will we really choose CC-By-SA 2.5, or some other license, like
GFDL or CC-By, for example?
3) What should we do about the Wikinews projects which already have a
license choosed?
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Best regards,
Dariusz "Datrio" Siedlecki
We've got a new set of servers coming in South Korea real soon, and are
talking about the possibility of additional data centers elsewhere in
Europe.
With our current software system it's relatively straightforward to move
whole wikis to separate data centers; for instance moving German and
French Wikipedias and some other languages to Europe, or Korean and
other Asian languages to Korea. This could allow us to make better use
of server resources for expansion.
What would be the legal implications of serving some content from
outside of the United States, in comparison to merely running them
through a local caching proxy?
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Of Thomas Edison there is an video recording
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Edison
A speech about the light bulb.
But from Jimbo we have only photo's.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales
Can someone try to get a good audio recording of one the speeches of Jimbo
and/or a video recording for Wikipedia? (Ogg Vorbis / Ogg Theora )
Walter
Despite claims to the contrary,
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikiversity was certainly _not_ protected
at the advice of the Wikimedia Foundation.
Perhaps it was advised by one member of that foundation, but other
Board members were not consulted. I am disgusted this approach would
be taken with no consensus from the community.
Wikiversity has been running for a long time on Wikibooks and I see no
agreement whatsoever for it to be suddenly shut down like this.
Protection is a defense against vandalism, not a way of expressing one
person's point of view on whether or not a sub-project of Wikibooks
should exist. Please remove the misleading statements about protection
and explain why you ever thought the Foundation would propose such an
awful measure on a popular set of pages like Wikiversity.
Angela.
After thinking it over for a couple of days (as opposed to my previous
overheated runouts) I have decided to go on a wikibreak. I somehow
evaluated it and found that with everything added my pleasure in working
on the wikimedia projects has diminished to zero. There are some
developments to the projects that I do not really like. As people might
have noticed in previous mails.
I will most surely be back ..... it might be tomorrow, it might be next
week it might be in a couple of months. Just need to recharge the
wikibatteries and find the fun in participating in the projects again.
That fun is kinda gone with me for now.
Walter/Waerth
Here's pitching an idea that I think would have to work..
It's Wikicooks (or something like that). In other words, a repository
of recipes in the wiki-way, ie. collated from all around the world and
available in a multitude of languages. As far as I know, there's no
really good repository of recipes online - I was looking the other
day, and found some okay resources but nothing that we couldn't do
better ourselves. And of course, it'd be free and open-content..
So, opinions? My only other question then is where this should be
created/hosted - in Wikibooks, Wikicities or a new wiki of its own?
Cheers,
Cormac
PS - I had this idea ages ago and before I heard about the Danish Open
source beer - but wouldn't we be able to take up that idea?
Wikipedia's tasty range of pasta sauces? Or is that just cheesy?
Cormac, you might want to look at:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook
Ciao, and happy cooking,
John Pozniak (aka Gentgeen)
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Cormac wrote:
Here's pitching an idea that I think would have to
work..
It's Wikicooks (or something like that). In other
words, a repository
of recipes in the wiki-way, ie. collated from all
around the world and
available in a multitude of languages. As far as I
know, there's no
really good repository of recipes online - I was
looking the other
day, and found some okay resources but nothing that we
couldn't do
better ourselves. And of course, it'd be free and
open-content..
So, opinions? My only other question then is where
this should be
created/hosted - in Wikibooks, Wikicities or a new
wiki of its own?
Cheers,
Cormac
PS - I had this idea ages ago and before I heard about
the Danish Open
source beer - but wouldn't we be able to take up that
idea?
Wikipedia's tasty range of pasta sauces? Or is that
just cheesy?