Hi
OCLC is planing "a Wiki that complements WorldCat. People could add
reviews, cover art, comments, etc. and relate these to bibliographic
records (..). We hope the system is flexible enough so that people do
(good) things we’re not expecting. We’d like the Wiki to be available
anywhere WorldCat records are.":
http://outgoing.typepad.com/outgoing/2005/05/worldcat_wiki.html
Looks like competition - we should better cooperate with OCLC.
greetings,
Jakob
Foundation-l] Re: 2M articlesNicolas Weeger nicolas.weeger at laposte.net
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> But *this* announcement would not be a global one. Launching article > quality survey is of great interest for the english wikipedia due to its > size. It is of much reduced interest for smaller language (as the lack > of interest in validation topics by minor languages show in meta).I'd also give some time for concerned language Wikipedia(s) to think and decide to activate or not that feature.
IMO validation activation shouldn't be decided by Foundation, but directly by contributors.Nicolas
Which is really good, because I do not think the Foundation has *ever* suggested it would do so.
What makes you think it would ?
Ant
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Anthere (anthere9 at yahoo.com) [050601 14:24]:
> But *this* announcement would not be a global one. Launching article
> quality survey is of great interest for the english wikipedia due to its
> size. It is of much reduced interest for smaller language (as the lack
> of interest in validation topics by minor languages show in meta).
> Wikipedias are at different stages of development. 2M global article can
> help smaller languages get a press announcement. I am not sure they
> would dare send a "quality survey" if their project is 11 254 articles.
> Journalists are more likely to have a great laugh :-)
Mmm. It's of great interest on en: and (I think) de: (particularly in
regards to their quality campaign). Has anyone on fr: noticed?
- d.
I certainly agree it is of great interest.
I think there are enough french readers of this list and enough french participants on meta, to know about this future feature (hard to say this aloud... :-)) ... and to make the information dip at the right places... though I do not remember having it seen discussed in french anywhere... well.
This morning, I put the [[en validation feature]] page a bit in the light on the "hot news" on meta to help a bit it raise interest. But what I am confused about why are there not two different pages for german and english speaking wikipedias ? Will the same "frame" work for both languages ?
In any cases, the topic of the thread is about making a press release for the 2M, not a press release for the article validation system.
The 2M would be of interest to many languages, if not all languages.
The article validation system, if it deserves a press release, would not be interesting all languages by far, because some languages are currently still in the process of trying to have *content*.
These are obviously two different topics and possibly not to mix in the same press release.
And as Ryo points it out extremely well, a press release about the article validation system should be discussed in wikipedia-l. I think it is premature though :-) Perhaps for september ???? (hummm, when school and business start again ?) Since you take care of it a lot, you'll be able to tell us in time :-)
Hmmm, right, I am not in the communication business. I only have the feeling these are two important issues and it would be best to avoid that one press release deals with two different issues at the same time. If only because we could not draft a good powerful title :-)
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Hi,
I've handed over management of the Wikimedia/Wikipedia CafePress shop at
http://www.cafepress.com/wikipedia
to Daniel Mayer (mav) to focus on my Research role. All questions about
the shop should be directed at him. Thanks to mav for accepting this
responsibility.
Best,
Erik
> But *this* announcement would not be a global one. Launching article
> quality survey is of great interest for the english wikipedia due to its
> size. It is of much reduced interest for smaller language (as the lack
> of interest in validation topics by minor languages show in meta).
I'd also give some time for concerned language Wikipedia(s) to think and decide to activate or not that feature. IMO validation activation shouldn't be decided by Foundation, but directly by contributors.
Nicolas
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Your new stewards are now
*[[user:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] (en, nl, de, fr, nds, ...)
*[[user:Angela|Angela]] (en)
*[[user:Anthere|Anthere]] (fr, en)
*[[User:AstroNomer|AstroNomer]] (es, en)
*[[user:Daniel Mayer|Daniel Mayer]] (mav) (en, es)
*[[User:Danny|Danny]] (en, he, yi)
*[[User:Datrio|Datrio]] (pl, en)
*[[user:Fantasy|Fantasy]] (en, de, it, <small>fr</small>
*[[User:Oscar|Oscar]] (nl, en)
*[[User:Shizhao|Shizhao]] (zh, en, ru)
*[[User:Sj|Sj]] (en, es)
*[[User:Snowdog|Snowdog]] (it, en, fr, es, ca, pt)
*[[User:Waerth|Waerth]] (nl, en)
*[[User:Yann|Yann]] (fr, en, gu, hi)
Amongst candidates for year 2005, all but one were elected with high
level of support. To be fair, I did not check out the last participants
for non-perfect suitability for voting, because by looking at the
results, it is crystal clear 9 candidates satisfy the "at least 30
votes" and "at least 80%" of support and crystal clear the last one does
not. Since the total number was expected to be 10 editors max... I see
no sense in calculating complicated statistics.
Astronomer, Danny, Datri, Oscar, Shizhao, Sj, Snowdog, Waerth and Yann
are simply elected by very large consensus, and that is it.
As for Traroth, I will just tell him that he not being recognised as
suitable in this role, absolutely does not diminish the quality of his
edits, which are appreciated by the french community as far as I know.
Reminder for Stewards : it is usually best to avoid removing sysop
rights (except when asked by the user himself out of tiredness) on your
own favorite projects. Both because you could be biaised, and because
others could consider you biaised. Generally, let other stewards take
the responsability of unsysoping people in your community. Also,
remember that the role of a steward is not to change his own status to
help himself, NOR to act unilaterally, but only to do what is useful and
according to community rules.
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As proposed a few months ago, and not rejected by anyone, inactive
stewards will be destewarded. This follow the same habit that what we do
for sysops on meta.
Last activity at Special:Log/rights show that
* Looxix was very active initially, but he is no more. He has left the
project (he asked me personally to remove his rights)
* Karl has never done any steward activity according to the log
* Arno Lagrange has only done steward activity to give himself sysop
rights (last february).
Karl will be removed his rights due to inactivity.
Note that Arno protested yesterday at the idea of his steward rights
being removed, pleading that he had been elected, had never abused the
position, supported linguistic diversity, had the intent to use it again
to give himself rights on some projects to help.
Angela answered him that being a steward was first of all a collective
role ("I expect stewards to carry out the requests at requests for
permissions"). Which he never did.
I support Angela here. Stewards should not just be super sysops, but
people helping the editors getting the access rights they need,
according to community wishes. A steward not carying those tasks is not
useful and is spreading a false image of many people being able to help.
I totally respect Arno request for more diversity but Snowdog and
Astronomer will now be able to help with the it and es communities.
There is a habit on meta that goes this way.
"if you need a status, ask for it. If you do not need it any more, give
it back". This is the reason why sysops are unsysoped after a year of
basic inactivity on meta. If they do not come to meta, there is no sense
in them staying sysop. This is not a criticism of their person, nor a
measurement of their trustefullness in the community.
So, I will wait people comments on this. However, if Arno activity keeps
limited to giving himself rights when he needs it and never helping the
community, I think he should be removed.
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All this will naturally be applied when the db is no more in the
read-only mode. But the vote is closed.
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In all cases, thanks for your unanimity and for the quiet surrounding
this vote :-)
Anthere
Angela wrote:
>I'd like the fundraising to be before the end of June so it's part of
>this quarter's budget. The elections begin on the 27th, so to avoid
>needing two messages in the sitenotice, it would be best to have the
>fundraising drive finish before then. Assuming it will last 2 weeks,
>we'd need to start it by the 12th. Does this seem too short notice, or
>is that going to be a possible?
>
>
Is there much that would need to be accomplished beyond touching up our
messages and checking the translations? Presumably the Board can decide
on an appropriate target at its next meeting. Perhaps US$75k like last
time, or maybe 50k because it's only two weeks this time, unless we can
articulate a strong justification for needing more? Yes, the fundraiser
and the election should not overlap.
I still haven't seen an answer to the question I asked earlier, about
whether our direct credit-card payment processing is set up yet, or will
be soon. So far, no sign of it on the donations page at least. This
should be settled quickly if possible, especially if it's more
cost-effective than directing everyone thru PayPal.
--Michael Snow
Hello
The elections for the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation are now
open. In order to accommodate all projects, every effort will be made to
translate the election notice into all of the languages used by the Foundation.
As such, we are asking that everyone pitch in to ensure that the Election
regulations are translated before candidates issue their statements. Please see
_http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Elections_for_the_Board_of_Trustees_of_the_…
edia_Foundation%2C_2005/En_
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Elections_for_the_Board_of_Trustees_of_the_W…)
for more details.
Qualified individuals may submit their candidacies
from Tuesday, 0:00 June 7, 2005 (UTC)
to Monday, 24:00 June 27, 2005 (UTC)
The voting will take place:
from Tuesday, 0:00 June 28, 2005 (UTC)
to Monday, 24:00 July 11, 2005 (UTC)
On behalf of the election organizers, I want to wish all of the candidates
the best of luck in this election. We are confident that the election will be
conducted in the spirit of fairness and goodwill that are hallmarks of our
projects' success.
Bjarte, Britty (Aphaia), Danny, Datrio