All-
Here is a second attempt at citation mark-up based
upon your comments from last time. The new syntax is
intentionally very footnote-like, since wiki-text has
most of the visual and editing characteristics of
regular print text. The mark-up is used to create
"citation points" within an article to which
references to evidence can then be attached. The
following is the syntax for the 3 basic types of
citation points:
Explicit Block: '++' ... '++fn' (fn for footnote);
applies to all text between the opening '++' and the
closing '++fn'
Implicit Block: '++fn' ; extends backwards, ending at
the first occurrence of a preceding citation point or
the beginning of the current sentence
Immediate: +fn ; applies only to the preceding word
or, if next to quoted text, the entire quotation
Each citation point within an article will have a
unique number associated with it- e.g. '++fn6' . An
editor can explicitly assign citation point numbers
themselves, or else let the software automatically
generate the numbers for them.
Going back to Anthony's example from last time, let's
say an editor opens article [[Roy Orbison]] and sees
the following:
'''Roy Kelton Orbison''' ([[April 23]], [[1936]]
– [[December 6]], [[1988]]), nicknamed "The Big
O" ...
The editor is not an expert on the article's subject,
but can still create stub citation points for each of
the article's factual assertions:
'''Roy Kelton+fn Orbison''' (++[[April 23]] [[1936]]
– [[December 6]] [[1988]]++fn), nicknamed "The
Big O"+fn, ++was an influential [[United
States|American]] [[singer-songwriter]] and a pioneer
of [[rock and roll]]++fn, whose recording career
spanned more than four decades++fn. By the
mid-[[1960s]] Orbison was internationally recognized
for his ++ballads of lost love++fn, rhythmically
advanced melodies++fn, three-[[octave]] vocal
range++fn, characteristic dark [[sunglasses]]++fn, and
sometimes distinctive usage of [[falsetto]]++fn,
typified in songs such as "[[Only The Lonely]]",
"[[Oh, Pretty Woman]]", and "[[Crying
(song)|Crying]]". In [[1989 in music|1989]], he was
inducted posthumously into the [[National Academy of
Popular Music/Songwriters Hall of Fame]]++fn.
Hitting the preview button, the editor sees the
following:
'''Roy Kelton+fn1 Orbison''' (++[[April 23]] [[1936]]
– [[December 6]] [[1988]]++fn2), nicknamed "The
Big O"+fn3, ++was an influential [[United
States|American]] [[singer-songwriter]] and a pioneer
of [[rock and roll]]++fn4, whose recording career
spanned more than four decades++fn5...
Below the wiki-text article text area on the preview
page there will be input fields for every citation
point/footnote within the article, with fields for
such things as ISBN number/URL, page number, and cited
(as opposed to paraphrased- i.e. inside the article)
text. The editor can then provide values for all,
some, or none of these citations before saving the
article.
I will come up with some more detailed mock-ups of
this design once you let me know there are no major
usability issues with it. Thanks.
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Maybe it's my lack of sleep, but talk of orbits made me hallucinate
that rarest of finds -- a wikiproject that has yet to be suggested.
With the regular discussions about different sorts of wikimaps for the
surface of the earth, chats with space agencies, &c, has there been
discussion of an universe-map wiki for annotating outer space?
SJ
On Thursday, December 15, 2005, at 08:03 pm,
foundation-l-request(a)wikimedia.org wrote:
> I think that the "Nature" article was largely sympathetic. Our best
> response would be to review the articles surveyed to make whatever
> corrections are needed, or even to make corrections that they failed to
> notice as well.
The Nature article is very sympathetic - and there's an editorial in
the current issue of Nature encouraging scientists to contribute to
Wikipedia.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7070/index.html#Editorial
"Wiki's wild world p890
Researchers should read Wikipedia cautiously and amend it
enthusiastically.
doi:10.1038/438890a"
(apologies if this has been discussed already - I just get the digest,
so may be a bit behind)
Scott
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well ... this is why page creation by anonymous users is not so bad ...
And why it is impossible that Encyclopedia britannica needs to proof and
reproof each single word it writes
http://www.golem.de/0512/42221.html
"both" encyclopeadias - this means even that one that according to our
infos needs to proof every single word - has the same amout of critical
errors in the same articles only in different places ... - hmmmmm .....
considering that Encyclopedia Britannica is 237 years old and Wikipedia
only 5 .... hmmmmm ....
(sorry I don't have time to translate this article - maybe there's an
English one around as well???)
Well I suppose it is time to go "back to ordinary" functioning of
Wikipedia (anonymous users can create articles - this is even easier to
check to my opinion - just switch off all registered users and have
special regard to anonymous page creations).
Ciao, Sabine
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Nature has a special report at
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051212/full/438900a.html , detailing
the results of an accuracy comparison between WP and EB. While the
Wikipedia articles often contained more inaccuracies than Britannica's,
they don't look at the article sizes in each case. With Maveric149's
help, I did:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28news%29#Nature_follo…
Result: Average article size for Wikipedia: 6.80 KB; Britannica: 2.60
KB. Number of errors per 2KB for Wikipedia: 1.4; Britannica: 3.6.
Put another way: Wikipedia has 4 errors to their 3; our articles were
also 2 1/2 times longer on average.
It's not 100% accurate, but I was only going for a ballpark estimate.
Note: we copied the displayed WP text, not the edit box text, and
removed the TOC, See also, references, external links, and any other big
tables or lists. The WP text came from just before the Nature article
was published.
brian0918
Brian0918 has asked me to cancel his post; his Gmail appears to be
faulty so he cannot do this himself.
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On 15/12/05, Brian <brian0918(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Nature has a special report at
> http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051212/full/438900a.html , detailing
> the results of an accuracy comparison between WP and EB. While the
> Wikipedia articles often contained more inaccuracies than Britannica's,
> they don't look at the article sizes in each case. With Maveric149's
> help, I did:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28news%29#Nature_follo…
>
> Result: Average article size for Wikipedia: 6.80 KB; Britannica: 2.60
> KB. Number of errors per 2KB for Wikipedia: 1; Britannica: 6.
>
> Put another way: Wikipedia has 4 errors to their 3; our articles were
> also 2 1/2 times longer on average.
>
>
> Can someone please check my math, I did this pretty fast, and was half
> asleep :) It's not 100% accurate, but I was only going for a ballpark
> estimate. Note: we copied the displayed WP text, not the edit box text,
> and removed the TOC, See also, references, external links, and any other
> big tables or lists. The WP text came from just before the Nature
> article was published.
>
> Raul654 and I separately submitted stories to Slashdot, and I would
> suggest anyone willing do something similar. The more requests they have
> for this, the more likely they are to accept it.
>
> brian0918
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