Wikimedia-l June 2004

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[Foundation-l] Membership fees
by Anthere 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

Hello all; I started a little brainstorming page about membership fees here : http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Membership_fees Please, criticize, add, comment, have answers... ant

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Re: [Foundation-l] Re: Erik as backup trustee
by sannse 16 Jun '04

16 Jun '04

(Appologies if this comes through twice - I have concerns about my e-mail service) I feel very strongly that we should not change the rules after the election. We voted for two board members and we have two. If it's decided that we need another then we should vote again. There is every possibility that the results will change with the changed situation - for example, it's been pointed out that many people felt that there should be a non-en. board member. As Anthere is a member already this may influence votes. I for one think that a U.S. user representative would be a balance in the current board. Regards sannse

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[Foundation-l] announcement: german wikimedia association (verein) founded
by Elisabeth Bauer 16 Jun '04

16 Jun '04

Hello all, I'm sure the news is already around, but here is something like a official announcement: On sunday 13th of June German wikipedians founded a local wikimedia association in Berlin: the ''Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens'' (''Wikimedia Germany - society for the promotion of free knowledge''). We had 34 founding members - among them friends of wikipedia and of course a lot of people of the german wikipedia. A board of trustees with ten members was elected, among them Kurt Jansson as chairman. The whole board consists of: * Kurt Jansson (1. chairman) * Arne Klempert - akl (2. chairman) * Elisabeth Bauer - elian (secretary) * Henriette Fiebig (treasurer) * Daniel Baur (assessor) * André Darmochwal (assessor) * Joachim Kerschbaumer (assessor) * Achim Raschka (assessor) * Mathias Schindler (assessor) * Jakob Voß (assessor) The first (and only) decision of the assembly after the founding act was to declare Jimmy Wales a member of honour. The list vereinde-l(a)wikimedia.org (http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/vereinde-l) serves for communications. If someone wants to become a member (we have already international members, this is possible), membership forms are available at http://de.wikipedia.org/upload/3/3e/Aufnahmeantrag3.pdf A lot of other things happened in Berlin, too: Jimbo, Erik and Sunir Shah held impressive presentations on the panel "wikipedia and friends" at the conference wizards of os, the wikireaders ''sweden'' and ''internet'' were sold at the improvised wikipedia boot at the conference and all evenings ended up in great parties until dawn, on friday many wikipedians met for the first time in real life, on saturday we celebrated the 100,000th article of the german wikipedia. pictures and information (in german) on: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verein http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kurier http://wikimedia.de http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia-Wochenende_in_Berlin more pictures on: http://jeluf.mormo.org/bilderbuch/20040612-WikiMedia/ http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Elian/Bilder greetings, elian, akl, sansculotte

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[Foundation-l] Election results?
by Brion Vibber 15 Jun '04

15 Jun '04

When can we expect to see a formal announcement of the board election results on the election page, etc? -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?
by daniwo59＠aol.com 15 Jun '04

15 Jun '04

Given all the comments, I have emailed the results to all of the candidates first. I want them to know their standing before (and if) the results are made public. That is only fair. I want to add that all of the candidates were excellent. I hope that they continue to share their ideas and advocate for them. I am confident that our two representatives will take particular notice of what they have to say. Danny

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[Foundation-l] New info about China's blockage
by yuanml 15 Jun '04

15 Jun '04

We, administrators of Chinese Wikipedia, had contacted our ISP today, and they confirmed the block is responsible for the Chinese government, and one of them can help us to send an application to the officials who are in charge of the blockage. We had sent the application, and now we are waiting for the result. If this attempt is failed, we'll try another way. We make efforts to change the situation at present. I had see Mav's comment at foundation-l ( http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-June/000365.html ), I think mav's approach is thoughtful.

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[Foundation-l] New info about China's blockage
by yuanml 15 Jun '04

15 Jun '04

We, administrators of Chinese Wikipedia, had contacted our ISP today, and they confirmed the block is responsible for the Chinese government, and one of them can help us to send an application to the officials who are in charge of the blockage. We had sent the application, and now we are waiting for the result. If this attempt is failed, we’ll try another way. We make efforts to change the situation at present. I had see Mav’s comment at foundation-l ( http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-June/000365.html ), I think mav's approach is thoughtful.

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[Foundation-l] Wikipedia Inaccessible In China - story hits the news cycle
by Daniel Mayer 15 Jun '04

15 Jun '04

--- Rick <giantsrick13(a)yahoo.com> wrote on WikiEN-l: > WIKIPEDIA Inaccessible In China > ChinaTechNews.com - Beijing,China > According to several Internet reports both the Chinese and English-language > versions of Wikipedia have now been blocked and are inaccessible from > the Chinese ... > > > http://www.chinatechnews.com/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=1316 They specifically mention that the Wikimedia Foundation has not responded yet. Could somebody who can speak for the foundation do that? I have a feeling that this story may get big due to the recent rash of censorship in China. Wikipedia could be lead part of many of those stories since it is hard to feel sorry for blocked porn and gambling sites but Wikipedia is cute and cuddly and now the Chinese version has been effectively squashed (with about a hundred contributors not able to contribute and many thousands disconnected from their favorite reference site - not to mention hundreds of millions of potential readers who will never know of us if this block is permanent). I think it is fairly serious when a very substantial part of the world's population is cut off from us. So we should have an official statement about this before the media starts to demonize the PRC's censorship policies. IMO, such a statement would need to say something to the effect that "Wikimedia wants to work with the PRC and we think that our NPOV policy should take care of any fears the PRC may have." Hopefully that will give the Chinese contributors a chance to work this out in a soft way first and give the PRC a way to back off without losing face. We could very well have been blocked due to bureaucratic misjudgment. --Daniel Mayer (aka mav) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/

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[Foundation-l] Wikimedia board of trustees / La fondation Wikimédia
by Anthere 15 Jun '04

15 Jun '04

Hello dear all, I�d like to close these elections by making a few comments, some of them for the past (thoughts on these elections), some for the future. quelques commentaires.... Merci � Danny et Imran pour avoir fait du bon boulot dans l'organisation des �lections. First, I�d like to thanks Danny and Imran, who, to my opinion, handled this election well. They were helpful, without being heavy, without being strict :-). Organising it all certainly took a good bunch of hours to both of them, and was a bit tough on them sometimes, so I would really like that we are thankful to them that all went well. On top of it, Danny had to take care of my questions, comments and worries during all the election time, so I would like to give him a particular thank you note for being so patient and caring :-) Merci � Tim Starling �galement :-) Second, I�d like to thank Tim, for the neat voting option he set for this election :-) I think it a very good tool for wikimedia-wide decision making. It is great that all results are displayed on all wikis, that we can confortably vote locally, that translations could be provided and so on. Good job :-) Merci bien sur � tous ceux qui m'ont soutenu. Third, I would like to thank the numerous wikimedians who offered me their support. It is really warming me up. Now, there really is a lot to do, and I hope Angel and I will help you to achieve our common dream. As usual, it is a team work, and I would like to remind you, that we will be here to represent all of you. We won't be there to decide instead of you. We are all part of a really great project, and everyone has room to participate. None of us know everything, but each of us knows something and can bring his part to the global scheme. ----- I�d be happy to suggest an improvement or two for the next elections :-) But since this mail is long, I will post them later on the election feedback page. J'ai quelques suggestions d'am�lioration pour de prochaines �lections. Je les posterais sur meta. ----- Je suis ravie de l'�lection d'Angel. Et puis, deux femmes au board... I am very happy that I will have the opportunity to work with Angel. Well, we already know each other quite well, from irc discussion, from our implication in the mediation committee on en, for the time we both spend on meta, for both being steward and ambassadors. Though we both have disagreements sometimes, we manage them. I am glad the german chapter was created this week end, and hope the french one will be soon. A propos d'organisations locales, l'association germanophone a �t� fond�e ce week end. J'esp�re que nous aurons un feedback d�taill�e, mais je signale en particulier la nomination de Elian au sein du conseil, en tant que secr�taire. Pour rappel, Elian parle le fran�ais. Pour l'association francophone, il est bien entendu que j'esp�re sa cr�ation sous peu. Je souhaite faire partie du comit� de pilotage, � priori comme simple membre, � la fois par int�r�t propre dans l'association, et pour aider la cr�ation d'autres associations ult�rieurement. J'attend avec impatience notre rencontre � Paris, avec Jimbo et j'esp�re, le plus grand nombre possible de Wikip�diens. Finally, I would like to repeat something I said on my candidate statement : " I would like that we build a Wikimedia-wide culture of love and respect; and, whoever the candidates elected are, I hope that most people listed here become active participants of the Foundation itself." I think each candidate had a different approach, and these different approaches hold a great diversity which will greatly benefit the project. So, I certainly hope and intend to make it possible, that several of them become heavily implicated in the Foundation itself. There is a lot of work to do. And the good news is that there really is work for every one who feels like doing something ! We have the members fees system to organise, copyright issues to fix, fundraising to develop, quality control to established on print copies, local chapter setting up, etc... We need a little bit of time to organise ourselves with Angela (who is probably on her plane back) and with Jimbo (now, nearly on holidays but for the french meeting... Jimbo, you need some real holidays...). My talk pageS (now, I really need that global watch list feature :-)) and my mail adress are open to you. IRC is also a great way to directly discuss. Please do not hesitate to do so. Thanks again for your support :-) Florence/Anthere __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?
by Anthere 15 Jun '04

15 Jun '04

Daniel Mayer <maveric149(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I think Mav, that these results are due essentially to dilution (you asking > for two positions, just add up numbers Mav, total number is good) and by the > desire many had to see a non-english on the board. This has little to do with > your qualities. Really. ant Thanks for the note. :) However I'm pretty sure that most people who voted for me for one position also voted for me for the other. That is, unless they thought they could not do that. yeah, *unless* they thought they could not do that :-) >-- Daniel >PS - the reason why I decided to run for both was so that I did not single you >or Angela out. I am perfectly aware of that Mav. That was real nice of you, and I appreciated. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!

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