(Appologies if this comes through twice - I have concerns about my e-mail
service)
I feel very strongly that we should not change the rules after the election.
We voted for two board members and we have two. If it's decided that we
need another then we should vote again. There is every possibility that the
results will change with the changed situation - for example, it's been
pointed out that many people felt that there should be a non-en. board
member. As Anthere is a member already this may influence votes. I for
one think that a U.S. user representative would be a balance in the current
board.
Regards
sannse
Hello all,
I'm sure the news is already around, but here is something like a
official announcement:
On sunday 13th of June German wikipedians founded a local wikimedia
association in Berlin: the ''Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur
Förderung Freien Wissens'' (''Wikimedia Germany - society for the
promotion of free knowledge''). We had 34 founding members - among them
friends of wikipedia and of course a lot of people of the german wikipedia.
A board of trustees with ten members was elected, among them Kurt
Jansson as chairman. The whole board consists of:
* Kurt Jansson (1. chairman)
* Arne Klempert - akl (2. chairman)
* Elisabeth Bauer - elian (secretary)
* Henriette Fiebig (treasurer)
* Daniel Baur (assessor)
* André Darmochwal (assessor)
* Joachim Kerschbaumer (assessor)
* Achim Raschka (assessor)
* Mathias Schindler (assessor)
* Jakob Voß (assessor)
The first (and only) decision of the assembly after the founding act was
to declare Jimmy Wales a member of honour.
The list vereinde-l(a)wikimedia.org
(http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/vereinde-l) serves for
communications.
If someone wants to become a member (we have already international
members, this is possible), membership forms are available at
http://de.wikipedia.org/upload/3/3e/Aufnahmeantrag3.pdf
A lot of other things happened in Berlin, too: Jimbo, Erik and Sunir
Shah held impressive presentations on the panel "wikipedia and friends"
at the conference wizards of os, the wikireaders ''sweden'' and
''internet'' were sold at the improvised wikipedia boot at the
conference and all evenings ended up in great parties until dawn, on
friday many wikipedians met for the first time in real life, on saturday
we celebrated the 100,000th article of the german wikipedia.
pictures and information (in german) on:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vereinhttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kurierhttp://wikimedia.dehttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia-Wochenende_in_Berlin
more pictures on:
http://jeluf.mormo.org/bilderbuch/20040612-WikiMedia/http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Elian/Bilder
greetings,
elian, akl, sansculotte
Given all the comments, I have emailed the results to all of the candidates
first. I want them to know their standing before (and if) the results are made
public. That is only fair.
I want to add that all of the candidates were excellent. I hope that they
continue to share their ideas and advocate for them. I am confident that our two
representatives will take particular notice of what they have to say.
Danny
We, administrators of Chinese Wikipedia, had contacted our ISP today,
and they confirmed the block is responsible for the Chinese government,
and one of them can help us to send an application to the officials who
are in charge of the blockage. We had sent the application, and now we
are waiting for the result. If this attempt is failed, we'll try another
way. We make efforts to change the situation at present.
I had see Mav's comment at foundation-l
( http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-June/000365.html ),
I think mav's approach is thoughtful.
We, administrators of Chinese Wikipedia, had contacted our ISP today,
and they confirmed the block is responsible for the Chinese government,
and one of them can help us to send an application to the officials who
are in charge of the blockage. We had sent the application, and now we
are waiting for the result. If this attempt is failed, we’ll try another
way. We make efforts to change the situation at present.
I had see Mav’s comment at foundation-l
( http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-June/000365.html ),
I think mav's approach is thoughtful.
--- Rick <giantsrick13(a)yahoo.com> wrote on WikiEN-l:
> WIKIPEDIA Inaccessible In China
> ChinaTechNews.com - Beijing,China
> According to several Internet reports both the Chinese and English-language
> versions of Wikipedia have now been blocked and are inaccessible from
> the Chinese ...
>
>
> http://www.chinatechnews.com/index.php?action=show&type=news&id=1316
They specifically mention that the Wikimedia Foundation has not responded yet.
Could somebody who can speak for the foundation do that? I have a feeling that
this story may get big due to the recent rash of censorship in China. Wikipedia
could be lead part of many of those stories since it is hard to feel sorry for
blocked porn and gambling sites but Wikipedia is cute and cuddly and now the
Chinese version has been effectively squashed (with about a hundred
contributors not able to contribute and many thousands disconnected from their
favorite reference site - not to mention hundreds of millions of potential
readers who will never know of us if this block is permanent). I think it is
fairly serious when a very substantial part of the world's population is cut
off from us.
So we should have an official statement about this before the media starts to
demonize the PRC's censorship policies. IMO, such a statement would need to say
something to the effect that "Wikimedia wants to work with the PRC and we think
that our NPOV policy should take care of any fears the PRC may have." Hopefully
that will give the Chinese contributors a chance to work this out in a soft way
first and give the PRC a way to back off without losing face. We could very
well have been blocked due to bureaucratic misjudgment.
--Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
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Hello dear all,
I�d like to close these elections by making a few
comments, some of them for the past (thoughts on these
elections), some for the future.
quelques commentaires....
Merci � Danny et Imran pour avoir fait du bon boulot
dans l'organisation des �lections.
First, I�d like to thanks Danny and Imran, who, to my
opinion, handled this election well. They were
helpful, without being heavy, without being strict
:-). Organising it all certainly took a good bunch of
hours to both of them, and was a bit tough on them
sometimes, so I would really like that we are thankful
to them that all went well.
On top of it, Danny had to take care of my questions,
comments and worries during all the election time, so
I would like to give him a particular thank you note
for being so patient and caring :-)
Merci � Tim Starling �galement :-)
Second, I�d like to thank Tim, for the neat voting
option he set for this election :-) I think it a very
good tool for wikimedia-wide decision making. It is
great that all results are displayed on all wikis,
that we can confortably vote locally, that
translations could be provided and so on. Good job :-)
Merci bien sur � tous ceux qui m'ont soutenu.
Third, I would like to thank the numerous wikimedians
who offered me their support. It is really warming me
up. Now, there really is a lot to do, and I hope Angel
and I will help you to achieve our common dream. As
usual, it is a team work, and I would like to remind
you, that we will be here to represent all of you. We
won't be there to decide instead of you. We are all
part of a really great project, and everyone has room
to participate. None of us know everything, but each
of us knows something and can bring his part to the
global scheme.
-----
I�d be happy to suggest an improvement or two for the
next elections :-) But since this mail is long, I will
post them later on the election feedback page.
J'ai quelques suggestions d'am�lioration pour de
prochaines �lections. Je les posterais sur meta.
-----
Je suis ravie de l'�lection d'Angel. Et puis, deux
femmes au board...
I am very happy that I will have the opportunity to
work with Angel. Well, we already know each other
quite well, from irc discussion, from our implication
in the mediation committee on en, for the time we both
spend on meta, for both being steward and ambassadors.
Though we both have disagreements sometimes, we manage
them.
I am glad the german chapter was created this week
end, and hope the french one will be soon.
A propos d'organisations locales, l'association
germanophone a �t� fond�e ce week end. J'esp�re que
nous aurons un feedback d�taill�e, mais je signale en
particulier la nomination de Elian au sein du conseil,
en tant que secr�taire. Pour rappel, Elian parle le
fran�ais.
Pour l'association francophone, il est bien entendu
que j'esp�re sa cr�ation sous peu. Je souhaite faire
partie du comit� de pilotage, � priori comme simple
membre, � la fois par int�r�t propre dans
l'association, et pour aider la cr�ation d'autres
associations ult�rieurement. J'attend avec impatience
notre rencontre � Paris, avec Jimbo et j'esp�re, le
plus grand nombre possible de Wikip�diens.
Finally, I would like to repeat something I said on my
candidate statement : " I would like that we build a
Wikimedia-wide culture of love and respect; and,
whoever the candidates elected are, I hope that most
people listed here become active participants of the
Foundation itself." I think each candidate had a
different approach, and these different approaches
hold a great diversity which will greatly benefit the
project. So, I certainly hope and intend to make it
possible, that several of them become heavily
implicated in the Foundation itself.
There is a lot of work to do. And the good news is
that there really is work for every one who feels like
doing something ! We have the members fees system to
organise, copyright issues to fix, fundraising to
develop, quality control to established on print
copies, local chapter setting up, etc...
We need a little bit of time to organise ourselves
with Angela (who is probably on her plane back) and
with Jimbo (now, nearly on holidays but for the french
meeting... Jimbo, you need some real holidays...).
My talk pageS (now, I really need that global watch
list feature :-)) and my mail adress are open to you.
IRC is also a great way to directly discuss. Please do
not hesitate to do so.
Thanks again for your support :-)
Florence/Anthere
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Daniel Mayer <maveric149(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think Mav, that these results are due essentially to dilution (you asking
> for two positions, just add up numbers Mav, total number is good) and by the
> desire many had to see a non-english on the board. This has little to do with
> your qualities. Really. ant
Thanks for the note. :) However I'm pretty sure that most people who voted for
me for one position also voted for me for the other. That is, unless they
thought they could not do that.
yeah, *unless* they thought they could not do that :-)
>-- Daniel
>PS - the reason why I decided to run for both was so that I did not single you
>or Angela out.
I am perfectly aware of that Mav. That was real nice of you, and I appreciated.
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